Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:38:21 +0100 (CET) From: Mohacsi Janos <mohacsi@niif.hu> To: Mike Meyer <mwm-keyword-freebsdhackers2.e313df@mired.org> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, KAYVEN RIESE <kayve@sfsu.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD hacker 101 Message-ID: <20080128083151.K55527@mignon.ki.iif.hu> In-Reply-To: <20080127133341.0f5e3f5f@bhuda.mired.org> References: <84a208a0801232306k6a34134aqd549a1ba2160fe41@mail.gmail.com> <4798479B.9030406@delphij.net> <Pine.SOC.4.64.0801241524130.25709@libra.sfsu.edu> <20080124185522.23ca743f@bhuda.mired.org> <864pd15163.fsf@ds4.des.no> <Pine.SOC.4.64.0801251142300.28096@libra.sfsu.edu> <86hch0pqhl.fsf@ds4.des.no> <Pine.SOC.4.64.0801261222580.7597@libra.sfsu.edu> <20080126183449.5086079e@bhuda.mired.org> <Pine.SOC.4.64.0801261553000.13548@libra.sfsu.edu> <20080127133341.0f5e3f5f@bhuda.mired.org>
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This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1720340939-1201505896=:55527 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:55:53 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN RIESE <kayve@sfsu.edu> w= rote: > >> >> >> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Mike Meyer wrote: >>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:24:36 -0800 (PST) KAYVEN RIESE <kayve@sfsu.edu>= wrote: >>>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, Dag-Erling Sm=FF=FFrgrav wrote: >>>>> KAYVEN RIESE <kayve@sfsu.edu> writes: >>> .rpm is a package format, and comes with a tool set for using it. Most >>> (all?) GNU/Linux systems come with tools for dealing with it, but they >>> all also come with tools for dealing with .tgz. Some GNU/Linux distros >>> use .rpm to distribute their software, but not all do. I don't think >>> any Unix systems have adopted it; most of them have packaging systems >>> that predate .rpm, and they're all different. Different package >>> formats for vendor software isn't a GNU/Linux vs. FreeBSD or Unix >>> thing, it's a fact of line in a multi-platform Unix environment. >> my reason for bringing the whole thing up was based on the idea >> that this person might be used to using *.rpm all the time > > Well, maybe. But consider the context: they're looking at moving from > GNU/Linux to FreeBSD, so they're probably familiar with more than one > GNU/Linux distro, so there's a good chance they'ev seen more than just > rpms for system software distribution. Further, they're looking at > working on the FreeBSD code base, so they're a programmer, so there's > a good chance they've gone to the source sites for the packages > included in those distros, where they almost certainly would have > noticed that the binaries for other platforms weren't in rpms. Since > they're programmers, they've probably downloaded source distributions, > which are almost invariable tarballs of some sort or another. > > In other words, the chances that they've only seen rpm file > distributions would seem to be vanishingly small, so there are things > that are far more likely to disrupt them - like the difference in > which system calls will work properly between fork() and exec() that > Posix() doesn't require to do so - that are still so unlikely to do so > to be worth mentioning in this context. > > If you feel you have to mention it, then you should really talk about > the tools, not the formats: GNU/Linux distros tend to use rpm* or apt* > tools for installing and managing software packages, whereas FreeBSD > uses the pkg* tools. Not necessary to use pkg* tools on FreeBSD. You can use pkgsrc http://www.pkgsrc.org/ or openpkg http://www.openpkg.org/ All above are supported on multi-os environment. Regards, Janos Mohacsi Network Engineer, Research Associate, Head of Network Planning and Projects NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY Key 70EF9882: DEC2 C685 1ED4 C95A 145F 4300 6F64 7B00 70EF 9882 --0-1720340939-1201505896=:55527--
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