Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 17:06:07 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: David Nugent <davidn@unique.usn.blaze.net.au> Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports-current/packages-current discontinued Message-ID: <17040.870566767@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 03 Aug 1997 07:40:47 %2B1000." <199708022140.HAA14589@unique.usn.blaze.net.au>
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[Trimmed to -current - PLEASE watch those cc lines, folks! We're all getting unforgivably sloppy here] > What features in tcl8.0 are required for a running FreeBSD system? > Why is it essential that tcl be present in the base system AT ALL? > What benefits are there in tcl being present here instead of being > built by the ports/packages system? OK, these are all good questions. I will attempt to answer some of them. 1. TCL needs, *at some point* (and note that the current move was rather premature, but let's not debate that here) to be part of the base system so that the installation tools can use it. We do intend on being heavy users of TCL, if not right this minute then in the future. 2. If it were in ports, we'd have a build problem since you wouldn't be able to build /usr/src/usr.sbin/setup (not existant yet, but it will be) without first building and installing a port. This would break the world target. Now the obvious "answer" is to somehow integrate ports with things that depend on it in /usr/src (I'm assuming that we'd also bite the bullet with perl and that things like adduser would also have this problem), but the question is how? Where do the distfiles live? How does the world target jump from src to ports in building a "complete" system with all the trimmings? How does this effect how we distribute ports and on which CD(s) the various files live? Most people only have one drive, and if you're going to support building srcs off CD (a definite goal) then what does that entail in the brave new world of merged ports and src? Those are the questions which *must* be answered, and answered well, before we can start truly pushing things out of /usr/src and exclusively into the ports collection. Elitist solutions which require dedicated network access or more than a jellybean 486 (of which we still have many in our userbase) need not apply. Jordan
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