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Date:      Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:03:48 -0700
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        "Mike O'Dell" <mo@servo.ccr.org>
Cc:        Chris Johnson <cjohnson@palomine.net>, Shawn Workman <sworkman@nidlink.com>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: IDE Cdrom problems
Message-ID:  <36BA2754.C044DBB6@softweyr.com>
References:  <199902041429.JAA14576@servo.ccr.org>

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Mike O'Dell wrote:
> 
> i cannot believe how crass the responses have been
> to the simple CDrom question - "it didn't do this before,
> nothing explained it would be any different,
> so is this a problem or not?" and  the responses
> have been incredibly rude.
> 
> and yes, one might want to put something in /etc/fstab
> so that if it's there, it's mounted, otherwise it
> just does nothing.

The standard /etc/fstab has the cdrom set to "noauto."  If someone
is seeing errors from non-existant CDs at startup, they've already
hacked the fstab.

> you need to learn to be nice to your customers.

Main Entry: cus·tom·er
Pronunciation: 'k&s-t&-m&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English custumer, from custume
Date: 15th century
1 : one that purchases a commodity or service
2 : an individual usually having some specified distinctive trait 
<a real tough customer> 

Exactly which meaning were you referring to?  I didn't see any
money exchanging hands here in return for services rendered.

You are right, being rude isn't going to help, but I didn't see any
rude responses until the original questioner pushed his agenda (this
is not what I expected, so it's stupid) as somehow being morally
superior to the existing state of affairs.  Rudeness begets rudeness.

> when you labelled it STABLE you set people's expectations
> and how when you fail to meet them you blame the user??
> I thought this wasn't supposed to be Windows.

It's not windows, but the STABLE branch label has a well-defined meaning. 
It may not be the meaning you expect, and that is unfortunate, but it 
doesn't mean the label is a misnomer, just that you don't understand how 
the FreeBSD labelling scheme works.

-- 
             Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?

Wes Peters                                                     +1.801.915.2061
Softweyr LLC                                                  wes@softweyr.com

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