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Date:      Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:47:50 +0900 (JST)
From:      Hiroki Sato <hrs@FreeBSD.org>
To:        pgj@FreeBSD.org, gabor@kovesdan.org
Cc:        doc-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-doc@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide article.sgml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng article.sgml doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/policies chapter.sgml
Message-ID:  <20080817.204750.78468138.hrs@allbsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <48A75B1A.7060809@FreeBSD.org> <48A8001E.1000104@kovesdan.org>
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Gabor PALI <pgj@FreeBSD.org> wrote
  in <48A75B1A.7060809@FreeBSD.org>:

pg> Hiroki Sato wrote:
pg> >  What is the reason why choosing not updating the article?
pg>
pg> Please, see [1] and [2], and my commits following this one [3][4].
pg> Everybody (Remko, Joel, Gabor) I asked, supported the idea, so I felt it
pg> is time to get the job done.  I take all the responsibility for them.

 Sorry, I was a bit behind the discussion because of a trip in the
 last week.  I am still not sure if removing them from doc is better
 or not even after reading the thread.  Moving all of them into www
 (or doc), or having them on the both of www and doc would be a
 reasonable idea, but moving only the team information into www does
 not agree with the reason why we have article/contributors.

 No offense and no explicit objection from me here.  I am just nervous
 about handling this sort of information which can be used in our
 document more than once.

Gabor Kovesdan <gabor@kovesdan.org> wrote
  in <48A8001E.1000104@kovesdan.org>:

ga> separately, so I think it would be complicated to implement. I think
ga> there are other overlapping parts, like &os; and the current release
ga> entities. Maybe it would make sense to separate them to a common part
ga> somehow and use it for the web and the doc?

 Yes, I think we should go for that direction somehow.  And in a long
 term, maybe we should merge www and doc into a single repository
 (like www/en -> doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/htdocs or so) because of making
 reuse of information easier.  Currently www build heavily depends on
 doc tree (www only build can be done but the result is not complete),
 so I think the merged repository with an option for htdocs-only build
 would also work without a serious problem.

 BTW, for teams/hats related information, what do you think about
 adding files including who it is on per developer basis?  An
 experimental one for showing the concept is attached.  It includes
 pgpkey, hats, commit bit array, mentors, and location.  Most of
 member descriptions of teams/hats can be generated from the files,
 and also the traditional first commit by a new committer can be
 simplified.

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| Hiroki SATO

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