Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:36:30 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> To: "Brian J. McGovern" <mcgovern@spoon.beta.com> Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>, Doug Barton <Doug@gorean.org>, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2 Message-ID: <79206.950898990@zippy.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:12:20 EST." <200002181512.KAA01992@spoon.beta.com>
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> it makes sense to slice it that way. Also, as far as teaching new users how > to install it, I _always_ show them the custom route. While this may sound > harsh, its used to familarize them with all of sub-components, and I really kinda wish you'd point them to Novice^H^H^H^H^HStandard instead since it does more than be a bit more verbose, it also makes sure that all the appropriate steps are covered and prevents even relatively skilled people from hanging themselves. Let's take the case someone recently reported: He went and added a user or two using the user configuration tool, THEN went and configured X and the default desktop. Since the default desktop configuration writes the new skeleton files, adding the user(s) first means they all get the stock twm environment since the Desktop config tool is hardly going to go back retroactively and frob every user it can find on the system - that would be evil and bad even if I wanted to add the code to do this. Using the Standard installation, you're presented with all the appropriate checklist items in the *right order* so you don't shoot parts of your anatomy off like this. I will also say here and now that even I use the Standard installation since I don't like having to remember all the canonical steps in setting up a "stock" system and if anybody should remember them, it should be me - I've probably installed FreeBSD at least 50,000 times. :-) Do your friends a favor, point them at the now-not-so-embarassingly-named Standard installation as a matter of course. Custom installation is for those who both understand what they're doing and what they're *not* doing as a consequence of using it. As our desktop friend proved, not even those who think they know the full set of "nots" can escape being proven wrong by Custom. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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