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Date:      Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:36:25 +0930
From:      Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Ian Moore <imoore@picknowl.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Unix history
Message-ID:  <20021017010625.GB57421@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <200210162209.37061.imoore@picknowl.com.au>
References:  <200210162209.37061.imoore@picknowl.com.au>

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On Wednesday, 16 October 2002 at 22:09:36 +0930, Ian Moore wrote:
> Hi,
> I was wondering if the commercial Unix variants are really unix 'clones' in
> the same way that FBSD & Linux are,

Well, that's an interesting claim.  Linux and BSD are *very* different
inside, though the user interface is similar.

> or do/did they contain AT&T code?

As far as I know, all commercial UNIX versions contain AT&T code.
It's possible that things like Tru64 have removed it all.

> They often seem to be refered to as Unix, but I assume that
> (according the laywers) they are not unix anymore than FBSD is.

No, according to the lawyers, anything which passes the UNIX standards
compliance suite is UNIX.  That includes Microsoft NT and IBM's
OS/390.  Technically, commercial UNIX is no more UNIX than FreeBSD,
but that's mainly because of gratuitous differences.

> If so, it's interesting that AT&T let so many companies copy their
> software!

Why?  They paid dearly for the privilege.

Greg
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