Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 04:18:24 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" <toor@dyson.iquest.net> To: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za (John Hay) Cc: davidn@labs.usn.blaze.net.au, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: login classes Message-ID: <199709170918.EAA00338@dyson.iquest.net> In-Reply-To: <199709170622.IAA11373@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> from John Hay at "Sep 17, 97 08:22:02 am"
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John Hay said: > > > rc files use the daemon class, which is too conservative... > > > > > > Perhaps we need a change in this class. If possible, in time to 2.2.5. > > > > It sounds like limits(1) might be needed in some cases. That's why > > it exists. I really don't think this is an issue that needs to be > > fiddled with in the default installation. If "daemon" resources > > don't suit a particular installation, then obviously they need to > > change it or use an alternative class with better tuned resources > > for a particular case, but there's no formula that will suit everyone > > in all cases. > > But if the shipped defaults does not work for most people, shouldn't > the shipped defaults change? I would guess that most FreeBSD boxes > are used as single-user machines, so maybe we should ship it with > more relaxed limits? At the moment the shipped defaults does not > seem to work for anything that I have, which is news servers, web > servers, development servers, mail servers or personal machines. > Or maybe we must specify for what kind of box the defaults is > suitable? > I think that we should apply the philosophy of 'least surprise' to the default config. Every system has a slightly different login-class mechanism (if any.) I think that wide-open (or nearly so) would be the 'least surprise.' Intelligent sysops, system administrators or vertical product suppliers will each have different needs for default limits. I think that the defaults should be 'intelligently high.' -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com
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