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Date:      Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:35:38 +0200
From:      Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
To:        Robert Watson <robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org>
Cc:        Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca>, Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Crypto progress! (And a Biiiig TODO list) 
Message-ID:  <200002182035.WAA28827@gratis.grondar.za>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.1000218115512.39111G-100000@fledge.watson.org> ; from Robert Watson <robert@cyrus.watson.org>  "Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:59:02 EST."
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.1000218115512.39111G-100000@fledge.watson.org> 

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> Another technique that could be used, and gets discussed occasionally on
> -security, is passing authentication information via ancillary data
> transfer on UNIX domain sockets.  You could limit the effectiveness of DOS
> attacks by rate limiting per-uid, for example.

Why is this being discussed as if it is new?

This is what my tool _does_, for crying out loud!!

> It should be noted that both the old and new schemes are subject to
> denial of service--the old due to locking, and the new due to socket/IPC
> limits, among other things.  I would argue, however, that the new
> mechanism reduces risk as it would allow us to remove the setuid bit from
> a number of binaries, instead relying on a single auditable code base in
> the password file manager.

Right!! Forward motion.

> If we plan to move to more daemons using IPC to communicate in this style,
> we might want to think about consistency guidelines for doing this.  For
> example, mandating an LPC structure of some sort, or managing parallelism
> on a single pipe, etc.  Also, documenting techniques that tend to reduce
> the risk of denial of service for daemons offering IPC services.  

Sure. Code/Documetation welcome.

M
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