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Date:      Sun, 12 Jan 1997 15:00:01 -0800 (PST)
From:      John-Mark Gurney <jmg@nike.efn.org>
To:        freebsd-bugs
Subject:   bin/2466 Re: bin/2466: telnet sleeps too much :-)
Message-ID:  <199701122300.PAA29644@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR bin/2466; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: John-Mark Gurney <jmg@nike.efn.org>
To: J Wunsch <j@uriah.heep.sax.de>
Cc: freebsd-bugs@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org
Subject: bin/2466 Re: bin/2466: telnet sleeps too much :-)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:54:53 -0800 (PST)

 On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, J Wunsch wrote:
 
 oh...  this is unrelated... but gnats-submit doesn't pass along the
 reply-to: that you (Joerg) normally have..  just noticed this..
 
 it will probably be missing my 'Reply-to: John-Mark Gurney
 <gurney_j@efn.org>' also...
 
 > The following reply was made to PR bin/2466; it has been noted by GNATS.
 > 
 > From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch)
 > To: andrew@ugh.net.au
 > Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG
 > Subject: Re: bin/2466: telnet sleeps too much :-)
 > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:10:12 +0100
 > 
 >  As andrew@ugh.net.au wrote:
 >  
 >  > If you leave telnet idle and then type something it will say "sleep(5)
 >  > from telnet, after select". It will continue to work but it messes up
 >  > the screen.
 >  
 >  > >How-To-Repeat:
 >  > telnet somewhere and leave it idle for a while, come back to it and type.
 >  
 >  No, this is not generally repeatable.
 
 I can do it over here...  just like he says...  I sent a message to
 hackers reciently about this... but didn't get a response...  here is the
 message:
 -----<begin message>------
 well.. I have a diskless machine (386/25sx 6meg ram, swap also nfs) that
 regularly gets this message...  I notice there was a comment about this...
 that he (or whoever added it) doesn't like it...  I just recompiled telnet
 to give me the errno when this happens...
 
 when it does it gives 14 == EFAULT...  it only seems to happen after I've
 let it be for a while...  any body have any suggestions?  should I just
 remove the sleep and be gone with it?  thanks for your suggesstions...
 ttyl..
 -------<end message>------
 
 >  I suspect something special with your network setup.  Perhaps you add
 >  a debug printf to see what the actual error code is.
 
 as the message states... I have... EFAULT...  very wierd is all I can
 say...
 
 >  The code in question (modulo some tn3720 hack) is:
 >  
 >      if ((c = select(16, &ibits, &obits, &xbits,
 >  			(poll == 0)? (struct timeval *)0 : &TimeValue)) < 0) {
 >  	if (c == -1) {
 >  		    /*
 >  		     * we can get EINTR if we are in line mode,
 >  		     * and the user does an escape (TSTP), or
 >  		     * some other signal generator.
 >  		     */
 >  	    if (errno == EINTR) {
 >  		return 0;
 >  	    }
 >  		    /* I don't like this, does it ever happen? */
 >  	    printf("sleep(5) from telnet, after select\r\n");
 >  	    sleep(5);
 >  	}
 >  	return 0;
 >      }
 >  
 >  ...so the sleep only happens after select() returned -1 (nothing
 >  found) but without EINTR.  This is a ``Cannot happen'' situation.
 >  Perhaps you can investigate a little why it happens in your
 >  environment.  (Mind you, many people leave telnet sessions idle for
 >  days.)
 
 yeh... I know...  right now I'm trying to get a tcpdump of a failed select
 to see if that would possibly help...
 
 ok... I got it... the dumped file is 73k...  I just managed to reproduce
 it... it seems to happen when the process (telnet) gets swapped out... the
 machine is a 386/25sx w/ 6megs ram netbooted with swap over nfs...  so if
 I do some stuff on another console the chances of telnet swapping out are
 very high...
 
 I hope this helps...  ttyl...
 
 John-Mark
 
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