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Date:      Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:14:21 +0200
From:      Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze@bsdforen.de>
To:        Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>, marino@freebsd.org
Cc:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>, Helmut Schneider <jumper99@gmx.de>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: New port, what's next?
Message-ID:  <5347B26D.4000508@bsdforen.de>
In-Reply-To: <20140410211439.GB37706@e-new.0x20.net>
References:  <xn0j0n25y421id000@news.gmane.org> <5346D5AF.5070905@bsdforen.de> <20140410182839.GB29301@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <5346E4F9.8030205@marino.st> <20140410211439.GB37706@e-new.0x20.net>

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On 10/04/2014 23:14, Lars Engels wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 08:37:45PM +0200, John Marino wrote:
>> On 4/10/2014 20:28, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 07:32:31PM +0200, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/04/2014 18:53, Helmut Schneider wrote:
>>>>> I created a new port, Typo3-LTS. The tgz contains
>>>>>
>>>>> - Makefile
>>>>> - distinfo
>>>>> - pkg-plist
>>>>> - pkg-descr
>>>>> - a diff from www/typo3
>>>>>
>>>>> The file has ~150kB so I assume it's to big for a PR.
>>>>
>>>> I assume the bulk of that is the pkg-plist. The largest pkg-plist
>>>> in the ports tree is 4M. In my opinion huge plists should be dynamically
>>>> generated, but in your case I'd just I'd just temp-host the file
>>>> somewhere and file a PR with a link and a checksum.
>>>>
>>> Autoplist are harmful! and should be avoided as much as possible, I know python
>>> and ruby has it but I m really not happy about that
>>>
>>> autoplist is dangerous because we have no way to control that what is package is
>>> what the maintainer expect to be packaged! therefore we often end up with
>>> unoticed problems
>>
>> Yes, but 6,000 - 20,000 line plists are unwieldy to say the least.
>> And the danger can be mitigated by the maintainer by reviewing the
>> internal temporary package list, ideally on multiple platforms.  Also
>> some plists are really hard to make manually if there are many options
>> or if the plist morphs depending on the combination of options.
>>
>> yes, a safety net is removed with a generated plist but it has it's
>> place.  The maintainer just has to be vigilant.
>>
> 
> Can't we teach the ports system to handle pkg-plist.gz?

That would be easy enough. The question is, can svn handle it?


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