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Date:      Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:17:00 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze@bsdforen.de>
Cc:        marino@freebsd.org, Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Helmut Schneider <jumper99@gmx.de>
Subject:   Re: New port, what's next?
Message-ID:  <20140411091700.GF29301@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <5347B26D.4000508@bsdforen.de>
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 11:14:21AM +0200, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
> On 10/04/2014 23:14, Lars Engels wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 08:37:45PM +0200, John Marino wrote:
> >> On 4/10/2014 20:28, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 07:32:31PM +0200, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/04/2014 18:53, Helmut Schneider wrote:
> >>>>> I created a new port, Typo3-LTS. The tgz contains
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - Makefile
> >>>>> - distinfo
> >>>>> - pkg-plist
> >>>>> - pkg-descr
> >>>>> - a diff from www/typo3
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The file has ~150kB so I assume it's to big for a PR.
> >>>>
> >>>> I assume the bulk of that is the pkg-plist. The largest pkg-plist
> >>>> in the ports tree is 4M. In my opinion huge plists should be dynamic=
ally
> >>>> generated, but in your case I'd just I'd just temp-host the file
> >>>> somewhere and file a PR with a link and a checksum.
> >>>>
> >>> Autoplist are harmful! and should be avoided as much as possible, I k=
now python
> >>> and ruby has it but I m really not happy about that
> >>>
> >>> autoplist is dangerous because we have no way to control that what is=
 package is
> >>> what the maintainer expect to be packaged! therefore we often end up =
with
> >>> unoticed problems
> >>
> >> Yes, but 6,000 - 20,000 line plists are unwieldy to say the least.
> >> And the danger can be mitigated by the maintainer by reviewing the
> >> internal temporary package list, ideally on multiple platforms.  Also
> >> some plists are really hard to make manually if there are many options
> >> or if the plist morphs depending on the combination of options.
> >>
> >> yes, a safety net is removed with a generated plist but it has it's
> >> place.  The maintainer just has to be vigilant.
> >>
> >=20
> > Can't we teach the ports system to handle pkg-plist.gz?
>=20
> That would be easy enough. The question is, can svn handle it?

Nope :)

regards,
Bapt

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