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Date:      Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:55:09 -0700
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gerhard_H=E4ring?= <haering_linux@gmx.de>
Cc:        Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>, Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Building -CURRENT with 4.5-RELEASE
Message-ID:  <20021022165509.A16179@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>
In-Reply-To: <20021022234814.GA567@lilith.ghaering.test>; from haering_linux@gmx.de on Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:48:14AM %2B0200
References:  <20021022022523.GA5953@gargamel.ghaering.test> <20021022092354.GL3325@sunbay.com> <20021022215211.GA545@lilith.ghaering.test> <20021022150125.A22457@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20021022234814.GA567@lilith.ghaering.test>

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On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 01:48:14AM +0200, Gerhard H=E4ring wrote:
> * Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net> [2002-10-22 15:01 -0700]:
> > Are you running a current kernel at this point?  If you aren't it's safe
> > to say it won't work.
>=20
> No, this is 4.5-RELEASE, as I said. By "current kernel", do you mean an
> up-to-date FreeBSD 4, like 4.7-STABLE, or a -CURRENT kernel?

I mean a -CURRENT kernel like /usr/src/UPDATING tells you to use.
UPDATING is the authoritative document on this subject.

> When I came to FreeBSD, ppl told me that you don't update the kernel
> separately, so I'm not sure what you mean.

You don't want to randomly update the kernel without updating userland
because some program like ipfw will stop working sometimes.  On the
flip side, if you don't update the kernel before install world, the
old kernel may not support syscalls required by the new binaries.  In
the past this has included things like /bin/sh so it is necessicary to
install a new kernel before installing a new world unless you want to
get your self into a real mess.  Additionaly, it's very easy to switch
back to an old kernel.  Switching back to an older world requires
backups.

-- Brooks

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