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Date:      Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:19:15 +0100
From:      Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org>
To:        Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au>
Cc:        Mitch Collinsworth <mkc@Graphics.Cornell.EDU>, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: differences between SCSI and EIDE [was: wanna buy an EIDE harddisk ... 5400 or 7200 for home use (noise)]
Message-ID:  <20000105141915.A78488@cons.org>
In-Reply-To: <00Jan5.122026est.40333@border.alcanet.com.au>; from Peter Jeremy on Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 12:20:26PM %2B1100
References:  <jon@welearn.com.au> <200001041610.LAA15549@benge.graphics.cornell.edu> <00Jan5.122026est.40333@border.alcanet.com.au>

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In <00Jan5.122026est.40333@border.alcanet.com.au>, Peter Jeremy wrote: 
>
> An EIDE "bus" is a random piece of ribbon cable with TTL logic levels,
> no termination and (from memory) insufficient ground wires.  This was
> not a problem at low speeds, but as the speeds get higher, the cable
> looks more like an unterminated transmission line and the reflections
> eat into the noise immunity.

This is one of the greatest concerns to me regading IDE:

On bad cables or drives, it falls back to lower speeds. This is not
only a speed change, the drive is run in an older IDE mode. That's
bad, because you loose the other fancy new features as well, including
error handling.

While we're talking about error recovery: After all those years of
getting it right in SCSI/ahc, how much time will to keep to bring ata
up to the same level? How many people step on ata as hard as people
did on CAM/ahc?

What about controllers? Isn't PIIX4 by far the most polished and
tested controller in ATA?

Martin
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