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Date:      Tue, 2 Oct 2001 12:40:16 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/calendar calendar.1
Message-ID:  <20011002124016.Q31215@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20011001091147.O40556@curie.physics.purdue.edu>; from will@physics.purdue.edu on Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 09:11:47AM -0500
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On Monday,  1 October 2001 at  9:11:47 -0500, Will Andrews wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 06:42:56PM +0930, Greg Lehey (grog@FreeBSD.org) wrote:
>>> Also, if you don't know, I am the official mdoc(7) maintainer in
>>> FreeBSD.
>>
>> That doesn't entitle you to override commits which are in dispute.
>
> Greg, if you have a real argument to provide for removing X Y or
> Z thing in mdoc(7), we're all waiting to hear it.  Just saying
> ".Fx is an obfuscation and unportable" isn't enough after all the
> work Ruslan has done on mdoc(7)... 

I don't see the logic here.  There are a number of issues:

- Just because (incontestably) ru has done a lot of good work on the
  man pages doesn't mean that we shouldn't point out where things look
  wrong.

- If you read the sources and find, say, a .Bsx macro, how do you know
  what it means?  You have to locate the man page to identify it.  If
  is says "BSD/OS", you know immediately what it means.  Using a macro
  just to represent a string seems obfuscatory and a waste of time.

- On the other hand, ru pointed out a number of advantages to using
  .Fx.  I accept them, and would have committed the change had he not,
  despite my requests, done it himself.

- The real problem is that nobody knows these reasons.  ru has been
  very good about fixing problems in the man pages, but he hasn't been
  very communicative about it.

- This project is (or at any rate should be) based on cooperation, not
  confrontation.  ru doesn't score very well here.

Greg
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