Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 20:08:36 -0700 From: Steve Rikli <sr@genyosha.net> To: Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fancy rc startup (revisited) Message-ID: <20070513030836.GA13998@dragon.genyosha.net> In-Reply-To: <20070513024030.GE2364@dan.emsphone.com> References: <464464BB.3090100@freebsd.org> <20070511152646.g6n5r7k2tcw00ow4@webmail.leidinger.net> <464476D3.3090001@freebsd.org> <4645173A.2040008@freebsd.org> <fee88ee40705121214ldd26976yd860e9e067d7cb6a@mail.gmail.com> <20070512205110.U24765@fledge.watson.org> <20070513024030.GE2364@dan.emsphone.com>
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On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 09:40:30PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (May 12), Robert Watson said: > > Call me old-fashioned, but I actually preferred the much more > > abbreviated rc output from before rc.d even. :-) We're not going > > back to hardware devices where all the probed devices add up to > > fewer than 25 lines, I'm sure, but when daemons generated 8-12 > > characters without a carriage return each, there was a good chance > > you could still see the end of the kernel messages by the time you > > got to login:, and I miss that. I don't object to optional more > > complex output as long as that complexity is hidden away neatly > > somewhere in rc.subr, and isn't on by default as shipped. I'd love > > it if someone could restore the even shorter output we had before. > > Taken to an extreme, you have Solaris 10, where you get the kernel's > copyright message, smf kicks off all the startup scripts in parallel > (subject to dependency rules) in the background, their output goes into > individual logfiles, and all you see is the login: prompt at the > console :) Right. And near as I can tell, no easy way to control that behavior without passing args to the kernel at boottime. I think. Which can be a bother e.g. when you're trying to figure out what the thing is actually doing (or trying to do), and you can't remember. :) I can appreciate the above commentary about brevity, but in the absence of "the one true boot message behavior", the ability to set e.g. boot_verbose=[YES|NO|MEDIUM] or similar notion in rc.conf might be good, if implement'able. cheers, sr.
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