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Date:      Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:51:23 +0400
From:      Alex Povolotsky <tarkhil@webmail.sub.ru>
To:        freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Inexpensive PCI SATA, anyone?
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Okay, seems to be reasonable

Any good/bad words on Marvell 88SE9230 chipset? I can buy a card with 2 
SATA + 2 mSATA, excellent for ZFS cache, but maybe anyone has any 
experience with the chip?

Card is Espada < FG-EST14A-1-BU01 > (ОЕМ) or Espada < FG-EST11B-1-CT01 >

On 22.07.2014 5:34, Dieter BSD wrote:
>> I'm quite content with all other parts of the box, but controller is
>> VERY slow.
>>
>> Can anyone recommend me inexpensive and reasonably fast PCI SATA with
>> 2-4 ports?
>> According to dmidecode, the box has PCI-E slot, x4 PCI Express, long.
> Note that "PCI" and "PCI Express" are different.
>
> JMicron JMB363 chipset:  NCQ SATA-300 PATA-133 hotplug port multiplier
>   2 SATA ports + 1 PATA channel
>   works on FreeBSD, ahci(4) driver, NCQ works, port multiplier works, PATA works
>   needs PCIe-x1 slot
>
> Silicon Image 3132 chipset: NCQ SATA-300 hotplug port multiplier
>   2 SATA ports
>   works on FreeBSD, siis(4) driver, NCQ works, port multiplier works
>   needs PCIe-x1 slot
>
> Some cards with a single 363 or 3132 chip claim "4 ports", but mean 2 ports
> with 4 connectors (2 internal and 2 external). You set jumpers to
> select which connectors are active.
>
> Silicon Image 3124 chipset: 4 ports (4 real ports)
>    There are at least two types of cards with 3124:
>    (1) needs PCI-X slot (wide PCI slot, not to be confused with PCI-Express)
>    or (2) needs PCIe-x1 slot (PCI-Express)
>
> A PCIe-x1 card should work fine in a PCI-x4 slot.
>
> 363 is a tad faster than 3132.  However 363 has problems with some disks
> that 3132 works fine with.  3124 is said to be faster than 3132.
> None of these are blindingly fast by 2014 standards.  Neither 363 nor
> 3132 can saturate PCIe-x1 bandwidth. I would hope that 3124 can?
>
> There is also a EX-3508 card. 8 ports, PCIe-x1, no raid,  sil3132
> 8 ports would need either 4 3232 chips or a port multiplier.
> Photo at www.exsys.ch but I can't make out the chip numbers
> and I don't see 4 chips that are the same size.  Sellers appear
> to all be in Europe, I didn't find any sellers in USA. (I wasn't
> looking for sellers in Russia.)  Anyone know anything about this
> card? (or similar cards?)
>
> The 3132 and 3124 are second generation chips.  Note that the first
> generation Silicon Image chips are very very slow, and as far as I know,
> FreeBSD still doesn't support them properly. (They work fine on NetBSD.
> Very slow, but at least they work correctly there.)
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