Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 17:57:21 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov <vas@mpeks.tomsk.su> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FBSD jail versus VMWare? What services do YOU run in a jail? Message-ID: <20140428105721.GA83158@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> In-Reply-To: <535A9154.4010205@a1poweruser.com> References: <CAFS4T6apJ30_WPrV3-azuwr5LHFE8htEk5a_xqe7DRZ7Wy5XqQ@mail.gmail.com> <53580129.5010909@ssimicro.com> <CAHieY7SViGaVXXK2CxQEuiTUZMA4EfrUVn_BdB-PHvoJiUjzaA@mail.gmail.com> <CAJYdwgUq=2s1sL=1EdEQYs=3Gv2ikrSP34kpvtQH%2BfNSedPkHA@mail.gmail.com> <033901cf603f$55a1ffc0$00e5ff40$@FreeBSD.org> <535A468D.7080006@a1poweruser.com> <20140425120532.GB89790@admin.sibptus.tomsk.ru> <535A9154.4010205@a1poweruser.com>
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Fbsd8 wrote: > > > >> As the number of running jails increase the > >> difficultly of managing them also increases. ezjail has no provisions > >> to address this problem. qjail on the other hand is designed from the > >> ground floor to simplify the administration of large scale jail > >> environments [1 to 2000+ jails]. > > > > Where can I read more about the unique and advanced features of qjail > > missing in ezjail? > > I have never come across a feature comparison between the two. But qjail > is a fork of an old ezjail-3.1 version so much of the feel is the same. > > http://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/sysutils/qjail/pkg-descr?revision=HEAD > This link is a good place to start, then pkg install qjail & ezjail and > read their man pages for the details your looking for. I am looking for someone to persuade me that qjail is in any way superior to ezjail which I am already using :-) If qjail has some killer feature, I am ready to look at it, but I must know why I should invest my time into learning qjail. > > > > > I am especially interested in features which help update and upgrade > > multiple jails and software therein. > > > > I must admit it's a bit of PITA in ezjail when it comes to upgrading > > third party software. I have set up a pkg repository for that purpose, > > but still I have to visit each jail individually and run "pkg upgrade" > > from inside. > > > > > > > jail updates is really 2 different arenas. You have the update of the > host system binaries and the update of ports. > > ezjail relies on the old "make buildworld" method. Sorry, your information is outdated. ezjail supports binary upgrades via freebsd-update. > > The second arena is updating your installed ports. Before 10.0 and pkgng > this was always a time consuming task. From the point of view of using pkgng, I don't see why I should prefer qjail to ezjail, they seem the same. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru
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