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Date:      Tue, 30 Sep 1997 23:02:21 +0300 (EEST)
From:      Narvi <narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee>
To:        Tom <tom@sdf.com>
Cc:        "John T. Farmer" <jfarmer@sabre.goldsword.com>, freebsd-hardware@freefall.freebsd.org, jfarmer@goldsword.com
Subject:   Re: supermicro p6sns/p6sas
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.970930225556.1314A-100000@haldjas.folklore.ee>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.95q.970929233431.5433C-100000@misery.sdf.com>

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On Mon, 29 Sep 1997, Tom wrote:

> 
> On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, John T. Farmer wrote:
> 
> > The reason for AMD & Cyrix _not_ making a slot-1 is the same reason that
> > they don't make socket-8 cpu's, namely, patents.  Intel holds patents
> > on both socket-8 and slot-1.  Want to bet that they have/will have a
> > patent on the slot-2 architecture also?
> 
>   Which is probably what everyone has been doing already.  What kind of
> socket does the Alpha 21164 use?  How about the PowerPC 750?  How about
> the UltraSparc?  How about the R10000?  How many of these socket types are
> patented?

There is no such thing as powerpc socket. The pinout (well, in most cases,
ballout, PPC uses mostly BGA) is freely available. It is mostly your
business how you stick it to the motherboard is mostly your business, I
don't think there is one standard between any of the PPC motherboard
makers for the processor daughtercard.

	Sander

	There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future -
	all these are just illusions.
> 
> > Ah, for the days when socket formats/designs were open, set by industry
> > coalitions or organizations.  When manufactours designed a "closed"
> > socket & watched their design-in wins drop...
> 
>   Huh?  For CPU sockets?  Manufactures always just built what they need.
> Besides CPU design has changed a lot.  I agree with Intel's motivation to
> go to a SEC.  It provides a package which is easier to cool for a start.
> Is there a "standard" SEC style design that Intel could have used instead
> of coming up with slot 1?
> 
> > John
> > 
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > John T. Farmer			Proprietor, GoldSword Systems
> > jfarmer@goldsword.com		Public Internet Access in East Tennessee
> > dial-in (423)470-9953		for info, e-mail to info@goldsword.com
> > 	Network Design, Internet Services & Servers, Consulting
> > 
> > 
> 





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