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Date:      Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:44:58 -0400
From:      "Lanny Baron" <lnb@cybertouch.org>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Certification...again
Message-ID:  <199907130343.XAA93504@freedom.cybertouch.org>
In-Reply-To: <19990713083222.24542@welearn.com.au>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9907121753400.91731-100000@freedom.cybertouch.org>; from Lanny Baron on Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 06:01:46PM -0400

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> 
> And who will pay for this to be developed?
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Regards,
>         -*Sue*-

When you say who is going to pay for it, I don't know what you 
mean exactly. Sue, you know lots of people like Greg Lehey for 
example, that can work with other (someone told me the name 
Mike Mcusak  sorry if its misspelled) very knowledgeable people 
that can make course ware that would have to be purchased by 
either individuals or tech schools. 

I know of one school here in Toronto that is very well known, and 
who is starting to offer linux certs. I asked them about FreeBSD 
but they have never heard of it. 

Going back to your question. If you start off at a certain level..and I 
am no expert at this. But, say you, a trainer says, a minium 
FreeBSD certification for networking would entail, installing 
FreeBSD (meaning you must also have some knowledge of 
hardware), security to be implemented, dns setup, user/group and 
permission knowledge. Lets say just for argument that what I have 
just mentioned is enough for "level 1" entry.

You would need some people to make up tests and maybe even to 
demonstrate it in a lab (say in a training school). FreeBSD has ties 
with CDROM.com so something might be workable there. You (the 
student) need books and the cd (made presumably by 
cdrom.com). 

I know I am over simplifying it. But I feel that it not only could be 
done, but should be done. Most parts of any "course" that 
FreeBSD could offer are already written. It's a matter of binding 
what a group of people could decide on, what knowledge is needed 
for what level. Then when that is complete, banging on doors of 
these training schools might well prove worth it. 

I will call tomorrow, but a legit training school in toronto ( i think 
they are in the states too... its called learnix..maybe.. here it is 
http://www.learnix.com) offer Sun. HP-UX Microsoft and Oracle. 
The cost I have written here in Canadian $'s for Sun cert (assuming 
you pass the tests) is $8,900 and that does NOT include the cost 
of the tests.

They (learnix) seem to be growing. More and more companies are 
sending their staff for training. I am not going there only because 
they don't offer job help and the school i will go to is more geared 
for those going from another industry to the IT industry. 

So when you say "who is going to pay for it" I guess ultimately the 
student will. In as far as the FreeBSD Project is concerned. If this 
could be brought to life, and had success, would they (the owners, 
investors and maybe those that develop a really good course) not 
get back more than they put in?

If I had the technical knowledge and know-how, I would love to 
participate in something like this. But then thats only my opinion.

Regards,
Lanny 




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