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Date:      Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:40:09 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Mike Silbersack <silby@silby.com>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@FreeBSD.ORG>, Terje Elde <terje@elde.net>, Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG>, Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Joachim_Str=F6mbergson?= <watchman@ludd.luth.se>, Greg Lewis <glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Status of FreeBSD security work? Audit, regression and crypto swap?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007241937560.6271-100000@achilles.silby.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007241608300.20680-100000@freefall.freebsd.org>

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On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Mike Silbersack wrote:
> 
> > Encrypting at that low of a level wouldn't be very useful in the long
> > run.  For an encrypted filesystem to be truly useful, each user's files
> > are encrypted with their own key.  A partition-wide encryption doesn't
> > protect anything if you get root hacked on your box.
> 
> Except this breaks the Unix filesystem semantic that you can read other
> people's files (if they have to provide their key manually and it is not
> pre-available), which is probably necessary for system operation. Unless
> all of the keys were available in the kernel without user intervention and
> stored persistently (perhaps encrypted by a master key), which sort of
> defeats the purpose unless you have somewhere "better" to store the key
> table than on disk.
> 
> Kris

Sorry, I should've mentioned that the encryption would be on a per-file
basis.  For example, I'd encrypt ~silby/personal and leave everything else
untouched.  This is how TCFS/CFS works, if I understand correctly.

Mike "Silby" Silbersack



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