Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:12:17 -0700 From: Dave Hayes <dave@jetcafe.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> Cc: "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>, Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <200209120412.g8C4CM153202@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org>
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"TL" == Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> writes: > "Neal E. Westfall" wrote: >> > Well, if you want, we can start at the very, very beginning, >> > and work out the entire basis for a rationalist world view. >> > We can start with "light bulbs work". >> >> Actually you can't start there. The premise that "light bulbs work" >> is dependent on the uniformity of nature, for which you have yet to >> provide a justification. > > I justify it by the fact that light bulbs are *observed* to work. I thought "observation" was an inaccurate methodology in the Terry Lambert mindview? > By "extropy", we are talking about a local increase in order. > AKA "life". I bet you can't prove that life is an increase in order. Any poor urban area is disproof by observation. ;) > I can change a rational person's views, as a rational person > can change mine. All they need to do is argue from the basis > of logic. I've had my opinions chnaged many, many times in > the past, by people arguing rationally. ...using your particular arbitrary set of presumptions as axioms. ;) ------ Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< Nasrudin went into a bank with a check to cash. "Can you identify yourself?" asked the clerk. Nasrudin took out a mirror and peered into it. "Yes, that's me alright." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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