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Date:      Mon, 21 May 2001 02:05:16 -0700
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Bzdik BSD" <bzdik@yahoo.com>, "Greg Lehey" <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        "Brian Raynes" <brian_raynes@dnr.state.ak.us>, <freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: [dn-core] Re: Perens' "Free Software Leaders Stand Together"
Message-ID:  <001a01c0e1d5$26ee29c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20010521083145.44600.qmail@web13602.mail.yahoo.com>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bzdik BSD [mailto:bzdik@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:32 AM
>To: Greg Lehey; Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Brian Raynes; freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: [dn-core] Re: Perens' "Free Software Leaders Stand
>Together"
>
>
>wow, greg you are that low...instead of arguing your case and
>substantiating your arguments you drift into personal accusations and
>borderline name calling...it's so easy to do "sigh".."a lot of us were
>put off.." instead of proving your points. was that "us" a Royal thingy
>out of Socialist bushes?
>what do you think you are? an authority? wrong camp... there are no
>such animals here
>
>a lot of us are not going to buy the Powerpack with your book good for
>6 releases back that you never cared to update - the errata are not
>up-to-date either. and this is not gonna be good for the "cause" of
>yours. this is just a pure FUD vomite coming out of your jealousy to
>his book. Annelise's looks very promising too, which combined with
>Ted's makes yours redundant even if you ever manage to catch up with
>time... how's that?
>

  Much as I appreciate the solidarity I would please beg all of you
one thing - rate the books on the basis of the books, not on the basis
of whether you think the author is a fuckhead.  This is as true for
me and Annelise as for Greg.  Plenty of people think I'm a fuckhead
too.

> it's a very interesting and important
>discussion,

I am very glad that at least one person other than myself feels
that way!  It's my hope that this thread would spur more thought among
the FreeBSD community as to how to actively deal with the media
and the media's perception of BSD and Open Source.  So far, the
Linux camp is the only ones that have been engaged in plain old
media manipulation, and even then what they have done has been
fumbling first steps.  (and they peed away a lot of the attention
that the sky-high IPO's generated last year, which was even worse)
The BSD camp has pretty much totally failed at doing this,
which is probably the biggest reason that we wern't included in
Bruce Peren's essay.

If we don't take control and start manipulating the media, then
others (Linux, Microsoft, etc.) are going to do it for us, and
we probably won't like the result.

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com



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