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Date:      Tue, 3 Jun 2003 23:56:08 +0200
From:      Andreas Klemm <andreas@freebsd.org>
To:        Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>, Frank Nobis <fn@radio-do.de>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: whats an UDMA ICRC error ?
Message-ID:  <20030603215608.GA5041@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org>
In-Reply-To: <ygey90j8mcu.fsf@gatekeeper.radio-do.de> <3D9375F6-95A6-11D7-A28C-000393496BE8@lassitu.de>
References:  <20030603055718.GA4763@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> <ygey90j8mcu.fsf@gatekeeper.radio-do.de> <20030603055718.GA4763@titan.klemm.apsfilter.org> <3D9375F6-95A6-11D7-A28C-000393496BE8@lassitu.de>

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On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:32:06AM +0200, Stefan Bethke wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 03.06.03, um 07:57 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb Andreas=20
> Klemm:
>=20
> >ad2: UDMA ICRC error cmd=3Dread fsbn 74689079 of 74689079-74689206=20
> >retrying
> >ad2: UDMA ICRC error cmd=3Dread fsbn 74689079 of 74689079-74689206=20
> >retrying
> >
> >What exactly does an UDMA ICRC error mean ?
> >I think this is simply a read error.
> >AFAIK an IDE disk doesn't have spare sectors or am I wrong ?
> >How severe is this error ? What do you think ??
>=20
> IDE disks have (hidden) spare sectors, and will transparently remap=20
> sectors as long as they have spare ones left.
>=20
> If the drive reports errors ("hard error reading fsbn..."), then it=20
> likely has run out of spare sectors, and probably will die soon.

o.k., but this is luckily not the case now ;-)

On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 12:52:01PM +0200, Frank Nobis wrote:
> Andreas Klemm <andreas@freebsd.org> writes:
>=20
> Hallo Andreas,
>=20
> > Hi,
> >=20
> > my console today shows the following error message from
> > my disk:
> >=20
> > ad2: UDMA ICRC error cmd=3Dread fsbn 74689079 of 74689079-74689206 retr=
ying
> > ad2: UDMA ICRC error cmd=3Dread fsbn 74689079 of 74689079-74689206 retr=
ying
> >=20
> > What exactly does an UDMA ICRC error mean ?
> > I think this is simply a read error.
> > AFAIK an IDE disk doesn't have spare sectors or am I wrong ?
> > How severe is this error ? What do you think ??
> >=20
>=20
> ich hatte genau diese Fehler vor einiger Zeit, als ich auf ATA 100
> Platten umgestiegen bin. Die Fehler sind sofort verschwunden als ich
> mit richtigen UDMA100 Kabeln die Platten angeschlossen hatte.

Well, will have to check cabling, this was also an answer I=20
got on this topic.

Thanks to you all

	Andreas ///

--=20
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