Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:31:03 -0500 From: Matthew Pherigo <hybrid120@gmail.com> To: Mike Sanders <tmp1@freebsd.hypermart.net> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Respecting Privacy: How To Prevent Spam Message-ID: <F4E011AD-941A-413E-A8BD-F5FF35DCA673@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20140430211105.GA961@taco-shack.cow> References: <20140430195924.GA1011@taco-shack.cow> <20140430211105.GA961@taco-shack.cow>
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Hey Mike, First of all, it should be noted that the prevalence of spam on this mailing= list is not because the configuration of this list is insecure, but because= using email in mailing lists has always been an easy way to harvest email a= ddresses, and spammers have only now caught on. The first option for somebody to be secure in a mailing list would be to use= an email account only used for public mailing lists. But, let's be fair, no= body is going to do that. The second option is to do as you suggest and anonymize the list addresses w= ith only one mailing list address. Not considering the fact that this makes f= iguring out who the message is from much harder, this also causes a problem w= hen time comes to have a conversation OFF of the list. If two posters want t= o speak to each other off of the main mailing list, they have a problem: the= y have to exchange email addresses OVER the mailing list. This leaves you wi= th two options: either exchange email addresses in public (defeating the poi= nt of anonymization), or use email messages back-and-forth to execute a piec= e of key-exchange cryptography to exchange email addresses without making th= em public. If you ever find yourself doing that last part, you know you're p= robably doing something wrong. I think the problem is less about "is this mailing list secure" and more abo= ut "is email suited for this kind of use", to which I would say "no, not rea= lly, but the community here is totally worth using email for the wrong purpo= se." When you get the spam messages, flag them as spam with whatever email p= rovider you use. Since they're not being sent through the list and are inste= ad coming from their own domains, flagging them as spam will cause your emai= l provider's junk filter to pick up on those messages in the future and not a= llow any more of them to pass through. --Matt > On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:11 PM, Mike Sanders <tmp1@freebsd.hypermart.net> wro= te: >=20 > Mike Sanders wrote: >=20 >> <http://staff.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/mailman-administration-v2.html>; >>=20 >> Under section 'Spam-specific posting filters': >>=20 >> Value: Hide the sender of a message, replacing it with the list address >> (Removes From, Sender and Reply-To fields) >>=20 >> Description: This tells Mailman to rewrite the header so that traffic >> appears to be coming from the list itself instead of the original poster.= >> Provides some added privacy for posters, but may be annoying to some list= >> members as mailbox headers show only the list name instead of the >> actual poster. >=20 > Okay enough... >=20 > Because I spoke out about this, spammers are attacking my inbox > with malformed email, attachments, etc. Don't know if these messages > are turning up on the list, but someone is replying to my list messages > with email such as: >=20 > 'Would you like to meet? I'll let you lick my twat' >=20 > If this list ever becomes secure look me up, I'd love to learn from you gu= ys. >=20 > I'm out. >=20 > --=20 > Mike Sanders > www: http://freebsd.hypermart.net > gpg: 0xD94D4C13 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g"
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