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Date:      Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:19:32 -0600 (CST)
From:      John Utz <john@utzweb.net>
To:        Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
Cc:        Conrad Sabatier <conrads@cox.net>, <freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: can I do this with a midi program?
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202141959080.21137-100000@jupiter.linuxengine.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020214224131.A535@welearn.com.au>

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Hello Sue;

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Sue Blake wrote:

> Reporting back...

your report brings back interesting memories!
> love-hate-crash relationship with rosegarden,

been there. at one point, i had it working. upgraded to another 3.X point 
release and that was the end of it.

> but meanwhile I went back to another port I'd discarded as unfathomable,
> tclmidi.

i am the guy credited with helping getting it running under freebsd. the 
email address listed is the one i had in college. i graduated in 97, so 
you can get some sense of the lack of freshness. :-)

> Not being a programmer's bootlace,

is that an .au specific metaphor? or is it generally understood in all 
nations of the commonwealth?

and, since i am a US_ENG guy...what does it mean? :-)

> I had trouble working out what it could do and how, but eventually
> discovered I can use it to convert midi->text->midi (where text is some
> kind of source code but that doesn't matter). Wow, all those events
> listed out where they can be searched and replaced, no X required, it's
> a bloody miracle! When I get the hang of the non-event parts, it'll save
> me 90% of the time it took to edit them one by one with a wrist-breaking
> GUI. And they say that daily mental arithmetic delays onset of
> Alzheimers. Hmmm... sed, makefile, timidity... it's gonna end up too
> easy :-)

i think you will have several years of Alzheimers credits if you finish 
this one.....
 
> Now I have to go elsewhere to find a way to learn about whatever it is
> that tclmidi is doing so that I can subvert it at will, but I wanted to
> reply to the list in case anyone turns up with a similar need in future.

now, here is where this starts to get interesting, and should also be 
recorded for posterity....

> Oh, I also discovered tkseq, which silently craved a change of the
> first line to "#!/usr/local/bin/wish8.3 -f" (where 8.3 is whatever
> version of wish you have) to make it work. A small simple light weight
> no frills GUI editor, perfect for a check and overview of the midi file
> that gets made (despite its piano being upside down).

the midi file that get's made...are you talking about:

a.  the one that you have generated with your massaging process? 

or are you talking about 

b.  actually generating a midi file from your midi keyboard?

i would be *stunned* if b. worked. if it does. wow.

assuming that it doesnt work, i should get it working. mike durian had 
written the only functioning mpu401 driver that ever existed for freebsd.

but that was back in 2.X days? 1.X days? wayy backkkk.

it would be a great start for a kld. and i would be able to seq on my damn 
box again.

 -- 

John L. Utz III
john@utzweb.net

Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life


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