Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 19:03:14 +0100 From: Manuel Enrique Garcia Cuesta <megarcia@intercom.es> To: Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu> Cc: Peter Lai <PeterL@resnet.uconn.edu>, "'Y u r i '" <ure@home.com>, "'questions@freebsd.org '" <questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Tyr'd with all this pronunciation thread Message-ID: <20001202190314.B1327@ilex.kicelo.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.10.10012021045370.17674-100000@qbert.gpcc.itd.umich.edu> References: <9F36E367710D474E9806AA393FE737FB019EEF@resnetnt.resnet.uconn.edu> <Pine.SOL.4.10.10012021045370.17674-100000@qbert.gpcc.itd.umich.edu>
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Sadly enough, however sound and clear and precise any language's rules may be, it's the use many people make of it what definitely ruines the language. I would not say Spanish is corrupted per se, but it's true that most people abuse it largely. As such, I don't see a problem in technical English words, they are mostly confined to the realm they belong to. "Hamburguesa" and "carro" are proper Spanish words also; I'm not quite sure where "hamburguesa" comes from exactly (though we do use it to name hamburgers and hamburgers only), but the traditional Spanish "carro" is something different than English "car" and is probably much older (only in American Spanish it has taken that other meaning). Again, things like "abend(-)ear" or "bootear" are not Spanish and I'm not prone to think that Spanish is rotting because some people use them; I rather worry because of the lenguage the media display, and people using it because they think it's the real Spanish. Manuel Garcia === Tim McMillen escribia (Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 10:54:56AM -0500): > > Ok, now this is WAY off topic, but you've both raised interesting > points. But almost all languages do what you're talking about. I know > spanish especially has words like hamborguesa, carro (cognate for american > car -automobile) Also almost all languages fail to follow their own rules > all the time. Of course American English has taken both of these to an > extreme. But the rate at which foreign word adoption is happening for all > languages is probably increasing due to increased world travel and > communication. Ala the slashdot article on Spanish being ruined by > technical english words. > > Tim > > On Sat, 2 Dec 2000, Peter Lai wrote: > > > i'd have to agree > > > > English is classified as a Germanic languague because that is what the core > > is written in :) > > > > Then people added more and more words from other languages that were ported > > over to English. :) > > > > Syntatical structure is quite unique, based on the Latin system. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Y u r i > > To: questions@freebsd.org > > Sent: 12/2/2000 4:05 AM > > Subject: Tyr'd with all this pronunciation thread > > > > Hello , > > > > Unfortunately, the English language predominates the Internet world > > despite it not being a very good language. Really just a bastardization > > of other languages, English doesn't even follow it's own standards. The > > only thing going for the English language is its large installed base -- > > sort of like Microsoft Windows. > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Y u r i mailto:ure@home.com > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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