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Date:      Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:22:39 +1030
From:      "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
To:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, d@delphij.net
Cc:        Alex Trull <alex@trull.org>, Wesley Shields <wxs@freebsd.org>, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, freebsd-rc@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: (Ab)using rcng's features to keep rc.d-style services running should they fail.
Message-ID:  <200910071322.48738.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <4ACBC857.2030207@delphij.net>
References:  <20091004141118.GG95662@syndicate.internationalconspiracy.org> <20091005135842.GA8629@atarininja.org> <4ACBC857.2030207@delphij.net>

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On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Xin LI wrote:
> Wesley Shields wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 12:30:55PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
> >> Alex Trull wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I realised that because portupgrade/portmaster don't always
> >>> cleanly restart processes that have died due to being
> >>> upgraded (mysqld, often!) that this was something I wanted
> >>> to fix.
> >>
> >> I can't speak to portupgrade, however for portmaster there is no
> >> such facility whatsoever. The admin is expected to disable things
> >> prior to an upgrade and re-enable them when the upgrade is done. I
> >> don't feel that this is an overwhelming burden. :)
> >
> > There is the @stopdaemon directive in plists (which gets translated
> > into @unexec to forcestop the script). Some ports use it and some
> > do not. Personally I think ports doing this automatically are quite
> > annoying, and would love to rip them all out from the ports.
> > Something like portmaster growing support for it would be welcome
> > provided it does not happen by default.
>
> +1
>
> I think this feature should be user-controllable (or, the 'make
> install' should be 'restart'ing the rc.d script at very least).

It won't actually start anything you haven't enabled in rc.conf though=20
since all ports install rc.d scripts which require FOO_enable to be=20
YES.

That said a knob like RESTART_SERVICES or similar would be nice.



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