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Date:      Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:36:01 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@futuresouth.com>
Cc:        Shawn Ramsey <shawn@luke.cpl.net>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: deleted huge directory
Message-ID:  <19971023163601.11925@lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.971023011454.29151C-100000@shell.futuresouth.com>; from Matthew D. Fuller on Thu, Oct 23, 1997 at 01:16:35AM -0500
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.95.971022231126.26455B-100000@luke.cpl.net> <Pine.BSF.3.96.971023011454.29151C-100000@shell.futuresouth.com>

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On Thu, Oct 23, 1997 at 01:16:35AM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Shawn Ramsey wrote:
>
>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions for deleting a huge directory? The
>>>> direcory is /var/news/spool/control/cancel. The directory is too large to
>>>> even do a ls. If I try doing ls, it eats up all the avail. RAM(140+mb) and
>>>> hangs. Anyone? I would try a wildcard, but I don't know what the filenames
>>>> are. (This is a very large news server, and this directory has never been
>>>> touch as far as I know.)
>>>
>>> Dear god.
>>> If you don't mind, I'll just borrow all that space.....
>>> Can you get a file listing by echo * > /place/some/file.list ?
>>
>> Can anyone tell me exactly what this directory is for? This months
>> Boardwatch in ISP Tech Talk, the author recommends deleting this directory
>> daily. And this has never been deleted, as far as I know. Or it has been a
>> very long time. Does the news server read this directory during
>> news.dailt? Expires have been taking FOREVER lately. I suspect this may be
>> a reason. (Sorry for the off-topicness, but how to delete the directory is
>> ontopic. :) )
>
> Don't know if this helps, but the reason I suggested echo'ing * (all
> files, of course) into a file is to see if you could do this:
> rm 'cat /place/some/file/list'
> or something similar; I'm not exactly an expert when it comes to piping
> stuff from a file.
> Someone else?  Can this be done, and could it work?

You can ls larger directories than you can expand with *.  The latter
is limited to ARG_MAX characters, including \0 at the end of the
strings.  ARG_MAX is defined in /usr/include/sys/syslimits.h:

#define    ARG_MAX                 65536   /* max bytes for an exec function */

At a guess, the names in the directory are an order of magnitude
longer than that.

Greg



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