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Date:      Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:14:48 -0700
From:      Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
To:        Jon Hamilton <hamilton@pobox.com>
Cc:        Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Crypto progress! (And a Biiiig TODO list)
Message-ID:  <38AE34D8.F7F88DBA@softweyr.com>
References:  <20000218220138.0BD819B@woodstock.monkey.net>

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Jon Hamilton wrote:
> 
> In message <38AD7AE3.B4BEB308@softweyr.com>, Wes Peters wrote:
> } Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
> } >
> } > >>>>> "Mark" == Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za> writes:
> } >
> } >     Mark> o A username may only be checked $number times per
> } >     Mark> $timeperiod; after that, _all_ answers are silently
> } >     Mark> converted to "no".
> } >
> } > Umm, massive DOS hole.
> }
> } Per username.  If you publish your userlist, you're an idiot.  The
> } daemon should also immediately go into "breakin evasion mode" for
> } all invalid usernames, answering the requests very slowly.
> 
> You don't have to publish a userlist in order for some of that kind
> of information to leak out.  Besides, by answering very slowly for
> invalid usernames you just gave the bad guys a way to deduce your
> user list anyway.

And how exactly are they supposed to tell the difference between answering
slowly due to breakin evasion vs. answering slowly because the system is
a 386sx/16?

You would want to answer all "mistakes" slowly, but valid logins quickly.

-- 
            "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"

Wes Peters                                                         Softweyr LLC
wes@softweyr.com                                           http://softweyr.com/


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