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Date:      Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:08:25 +1000 (EST)
From:      Peter Hawkins <thepish@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Cc:        phk@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/time time.1 time.c
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980725160241.2327G-100000@dana.clari.net.au>
In-Reply-To: <199807241435.HAA07570@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>

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>> There is no situation where this patch is required and it's quite a departure
>> from the norms elsewhere. The consensus on the list seems to have been that
>> this shouldn't be committed.
>Clearly, you don't understand the PR.  Think about the following
>
>kargl[204] time -l ls > /dev/null
>kargl[206] time -l sh -c "ls > /dev/null"

That's not the solution I suggested anyway :) Besides, I've lectured in
benchmarking and know that you have to take many readings and take averages
before you have any serious measure. The addition of "sh" is NOTHING compared
to other random activities (whether the files you're reading are cached,
whether the program itself is cached, whether a daemon starts during your
test, whether you swap etc...) Even so, if you plan to be that accurate, you
can in theory work out what sh itself takes and subtract, but it's going to be
a case of X - 0.0 anyway.

Peter

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