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Date:      Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:25:52 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Howard Goldstein <hgoldste@mpcs.com>
To:        Doug White <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: dhcp client request for a netblk - ideas?
Message-ID:  <14182.57600.845707.33747@penny.south.mpcs.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.03.9906151556580.11204-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu>
References:  <14179.42425.782408.505357@penny.south.mpcs.com> <Pine.BSF.4.03.9906151556580.11204-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu>

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Doug White writes:
 > On Sun, 13 Jun 1999, Howard Goldstein wrote:
 > 
 > > Telco willing, I'm having SDSL installed this week.  It comes with a
 > > /28 static netblk but according to the salesdroid, with a catch and a
 > > half: The addresses must be leased..  Once leased, they're static.
 > 
 > dynamic-bootp, eh?
 > 
 > Er, that doesn't smell right ... why on earth bother with DHCP
 > then??  

This is what they tell me.  The kind lady at the other end didn't
have/wouldn't tell me the IP block.  

 > And
 > just what keeps you from sucking up as many IPs as you can generate
 > Ethernet addresses for?    >>:->  

"Kids, don't try this at home"  

 > 
 > > My question is how to coerce my firewall into leasing the entire /28
 > > on behalf of the network it's hiding (and NATting, possibly,
 > > hopefully) and without forcing the hidden hosts to use dhcp, or to
 > > exist even as ifconfig aliases.
 > 
 > Why not plug the user boxen into the network *temporarily*, suck your
 > lease, then rearrange them as needed?

Would this work?  I thought the protocol mapped a host address to a
MAC.  If I did that and pulled the {blah} box back off the lease
(post-suck) would the ethernet link bomb?  Sure, could try this too.



 > And call your dopey Telco back -- that story doesn't check out.  Try the
 > 'that machine doesn't support DHCP story' and see if that
 > flies. :-)

We *are* talking about the phone company.  Is not the phone company
arrogant simply because they can be?  If I tell them it doesn't
support DHCP they're going to tell me to buy their cute little $600
router that'll do this for me.  I wonder how it's doing it

 > > If this were a normal routing situation I'd run gated or something to
 > > advertise the /28 route but this funky Fujitstu SDSL modem seems to
 > > have different ideas about routing.
 > 
 > Fujitsu, eh?  I wasn't aware they made dsl equipment.

Ugly little black box, looks like an audio CD Walkman that joined a
gym a few months ago.  RJ11 and RJ45 jacks for 10bt and DSL data.  Its
power supply failed today not more than a few hours before the
installer came to add the audio/data splitter.  It took some doing but
after a long phone call at least he was persuaded to leave his
(presumed functional) modem behind.

Man I wish bpf was compiled in the GENERIC kernel, I really would have
liked to have tried dhclient before unplugging the thing to go home.



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