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Date:      Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:25:53 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Josef Karthauser <joe@pavilion.net>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: looking for "microuptime went backwards" victims... 
Message-ID:  <64554.968235953@critter>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 06 Sep 2000 11:17:13 BST." <20000906111713.E1081@pavilion.net> 

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Uhm, that is from the sound driver, not from the timecounter...

Poul-Henning

In message <20000906111713.E1081@pavilion.net>, Josef Karthauser writes:
>I got this last night running 'mtv' on a system with heavy disk I/O.
>The errors were:
>
>Sep  5 23:12:14 genius /kernel: pcm0: hwptr went backwards 8208 -> 8192
>Sep  5 23:12:47 genius /kernel: pcm0: hwptr went backwards 8420 -> 8192
>Sep  5 23:12:57 genius /kernel: pcm0: hwptr went backwards 8212 -> 8192
>Sep  5 23:13:04 genius /kernel: pcm0: hwptr went backwards 8196 -> 8192
>Sep  5 23:13:21 genius /kernel: pcm0: hwptr went backwards 8208 -> 8192
>
>etc.
>
>Joe
>
>FreeBSD genius.systems.pavilion.net 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #11: Tue Sep  5 12:45:45 BST 2000     joe@genius.systems.pavilion.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENIUS  i386
>
>On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 06:41:14PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> 
>> I'm looking for the remaining victims of the dreaded "microuptime
>> went backwards" message.
>> 
>> If you can reliably reproduce the problem, please contact me, so
>> we can arrange for some very detailed tracing to try to find out
>> what exactly is going on.  I have not been able to trigger the
>> problem in my lab in a long time.
>> 
>> If you see the message only occationally, please try the attached
>> patch and let me know if this changes the picture.  The patch is
>> not meant as a fix, but it might reduce the impact of this condition
>> considerably when it happens.  Basically by reducing the width of
>> the timecounter the magnitude of the hit we take if the timecounter
>> goes backwards is reduced from about an hour to approx 110msec.
>> 
>> Reducing the width to less than 17 bits starts to run the risk of
>> ambiguity due to clock rollover.
>> 
>> This patch may not be safe with PCAUDIO.
>> 
>> Poul-Henning
>> 
>> Index: clock.c
>> ===================================================================
>> RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/clock.c,v
>> retrieving revision 1.155
>> diff -u -r1.155 clock.c
>> --- clock.c	2000/07/30 21:05:22	1.155
>> +++ clock.c	2000/09/04 16:34:16
>> @@ -194,7 +194,7 @@
>>  static struct timecounter i8254_timecounter = {
>>  	i8254_get_timecount,	/* get_timecount */
>>  	0,			/* no poll_pps */
>> -	~0u,			/* counter_mask */
>> +	0x1ffff,		/* counter_mask */
>>  	0,			/* frequency */
>>  	"i8254"			/* name */
>>  };
>> 
>> --
>> Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
>> phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
>> FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe
>> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
>> 
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