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Date:      Thu, 10 Apr 2014 12:01:18 +0100
From:      Pawel Biernacki <pawel.biernacki@gmail.com>
To:        =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@icloud.com>, Walter Hop <freebsd@spam.lifeforms.nl>
Subject:   Re: Proposal
Message-ID:  <CAA3htvtFGU=-KYrpVpeJjd46QS7=em4n7qROqsY3V3r3Bc823w@mail.gmail.com>

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On 10 April 2014 08:09, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav <des@des.no> wrote:
> Pawel Biernacki <pawel.biernacki@gmail.com> writes:
>> If you want to make an excuse that a build took a long time - it's
>> really a poor one. If the build cluster is too slow then project need
>> to acquire a new one.
>
> The freebsd-update build is not a normal make buildworld or make
> release, it's much more complicated than that.
>

So you're telling me that nothing can be done about it?

>> Many of us had very hard time during last 48 hours. I know that when
>> you fill responsible for something you want to do as much as you can,
>> but you need to sleep, eat, etc.. If the whole process is to
>> overwhelming for one person maybe it's time to think about extending
>> the SO team or reorganising the process of preparing patched releases?
>> If there is a need of hands, manpower or so why not ask the community
>> to help?
>
> Did you read the part where I said this is mostly single-threaded?
>

Yes, but you also wrote:

> The best you can hope for is to have someone relieve
> you while you eat and sleep.

And I don't understand why all of those things need to be
single-threaded, since you even mention asking someone from
clusteradm@ to help:

> Once the builds were ready to go, he moved into a phase where everything
> had to happen more or less simultaneously: commit the patches, finalize
> the advisory (which contains revision numbers and timestamps), sign it,
> then commit the advisory and the patch to the doc tree, update the
> relevant portions of the web site, wait for them to propagate (or grab a
> passing member of clusteradm@ and have them push it through manually),
> and finally mail out the advisory.

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