Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:34:40 -0500 From: Sean Cavanaugh <millenia2000@hotmail.com> To: <jnatola@familycareintl.org>, <jerrymc@msu.edu> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: desktop app/config Message-ID: <BAY126-W58A3D3D301D1EEAF8A8338CAB20@phx.gbl> In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E4182@www.fcimail.org> References: <BAY126-W29DEEB27B0ACC9ED4D88BECAB20@phx.gbl> <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E4182@www.fcimail.org>
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> Date: Thu=2C 19 Feb 2009 12:39:53 -0500 > From: jnatola@familycareintl.org > To: millenia2000@hotmail.com=3B jerrymc@msu.edu > CC: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: desktop app/config >=20 > What is the "terminology" that I would need to search in the handbook to = get > a bsd machine to authenticate with AD I have Mac machines that authentic= ate > to our network- but that's easy to configure >=20 TO connect to a Windows Active Directory=2C you need to use LDAP for authen= tication. HOW to do that is beyond me and thus google.com is your friend. > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2000@hotmail.com]=20 > Sent: Thursday=2C February 19=2C 2009 12:36 PM > To: Jean-Paul Natola=3B jerrymc@msu.edu > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: desktop app/config >=20 >=20 >=20 > > Date: Thu=2C 19 Feb 2009 12:19:09 -0500 > > From: jnatola@familycareintl.org > > To: millenia2000@hotmail.com=3B jerrymc@msu.edu > > CC: questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: desktop app/config > >=20 > > That's sounds like what I'm looking for=2C however=2C when you say logi= n with > no > > user or password- I'm not sure if I like that because our fileserver is > going > > to have to authenticate them at some point as will access to the printe= rs > so > > somewhere somehow I need a login no? > >=20 >=20 > What i was refering to was having a basic user with no system authority s= uch > as deleting files and whatnot on the local machine. dont want inexperienc= ed > user screwing up a perfectly fine system. >=20 > if you have a file/print server set up then you are correct and should pr= ob > use a password for the user account. i was assuming local access only.=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2000@hotmail.com]=20 > > Sent: Thursday=2C February 19=2C 2009 12:17 PM > > To: Jean-Paul Natola=3B jerrymc@msu.edu > > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: desktop app/config > >=20 > >=20 > > > Date: Thu=2C 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500 > > > From: jnatola@familycareintl.org > > > To: jerrymc@msu.edu > > > CC: questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: RE: desktop app/config > > >=20 > > > I think we went off track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is= a > > > FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's - I want to > setup > > > some "recycled" machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a u= ser > to > > > grasp- I have mac users and pc users here- > > >=20 > > > But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline insta= ll > > with either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE i= s > more > > MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either of > them > > to look like MSWindows. > >=20 > > setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to = log > in > > with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or = KDM > > (depending on which you want to use). > >=20 > > Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per yo= ur > > needs. > >=20 > > -Sean > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu]=20 > > > Sent: Thursday=2C February 19=2C 2009 12:00 PM > > > To: Jean-Paul Natola > > > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: desktop app/config > > >=20 > > > On Thu=2C Feb 19=2C 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500=2C Jean-Paul Natola wrot= e: > > >=20 > > > > Hi all=2C > > > >=20 > > > > I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the > > library > > > > running FreeBSD-=20 > > > >=20 > > > > What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what co= nfig > > do > > > I > > > > need so that when the machine starts (power / boot) it will > automatically > > > > launch the desktop gui > > >=20 > > > The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest > > FreeBSD > > > (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE=2C update it to RELENG_7 or RELEN= G_7_1 > > > so it has the latest patches. Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will h= ave > > > graphics. Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree. > > > Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice=2C alth= ough > > > you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than > > > from ports. Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting > > > for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl > > > and maybe a couple of games for fun. > > >=20 > > > Then=2C just start using it. Learn to find things you need on the sys= tem.=20 > > > and configure the network securely. There is lots of documentation in > > > the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online. The more you do it=2C t= he > > > more they make sense. > > >=20 > > > One thing to learn is using the vi(1) text editor. There are many > > > other editors=2C but for system management=2C vi is the omnipresent= =2C > > ubiquitious > > > one. It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things > > > are happening. It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it > > > but it quickly becomes second nature. The FreeBSD man page is pretty > > > good on it. I have a web page that simplifies it a little at:=20 > > >=20 > > > http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/ > > >=20 > > > There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD. > > >=20 > > > "FreeBSD Unleashed" and "Absolute BSD" are a couple of them > > > The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and > > > is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good. > > > The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed. > > >=20 > > > At first=2C it will seem a little strange. Generally FreeBSD is comma= nd > > > oriented=2C not pointy/clicky oriented. That is a much more powerful = way > > > to administer a system=2C but it takes more initial learning. > > >=20 > > > Ask questions. People on the list have already heard all the common > > > complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of times= . > > > The usual response is "Thank God" or something similar. Anyway=2C the= y > > > are not interested in hearing whines again. But=2C if you have a real > > > question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this way= ' > > > and not just grousing=2C people on the list are usually very good abo= ut > > > giving answers. List people are very interested in helping people=20 > > > learn=2C but not interested in people complaining.=20 > > >=20 > > > If it is a bug=2C post a pr. If it is a feature request=2C remember t= hat=20 > > > FreeBSD is created and maintained by volunteers - very smart ones - b= ut=20 > > > they have limits on time and resources so your request may take a ver= y=20 > > > long time to get attention. You may well learn how to do it yourself= =20 > > > and then submit it as an improvement before then. > > >=20 > > > Good luck and have fun. > > >=20 > > > ////jerry=20 > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > thanx > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > >=20 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org"
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