Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 10:30:33 -0500 From: Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com> To: Maksim Yevmenkin <maksim.yevmenkin@savvis.net> Cc: freebsd-bluetooth@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Palm sync over bluetooth? Message-ID: <42F0E319.6020007@centtech.com> In-Reply-To: <42F052D4.9030202@savvis.net> References: <42D558B3.1060603@centtech.com> <42D55B3D.50605@savvis.net> <42D55D5D.8030604@centtech.com> <42D57496.2050102@savvis.net> <42D57C67.7020500@centtech.com> <1121287483.60360.21.camel@hood.oook.cz> <1122863179.663.22.camel@RabbitsDen> <42EE4F64.7040002@centtech.com> <42EE6438.9080209@savvis.net> <42EE7C76.2090904@centtech.com> <42EE85F9.50008@savvis.net> <42EE8D26.6010406@centtech.com> <42F047D3.7050805@centtech.com> <42F052D4.9030202@savvis.net>
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Maksim Yevmenkin wrote: > Eric, > >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>>>>>> That's exactly how it is with serial and USB - computer >>>>>>>>> connects to >>>>>>>>> Palm, then you start Hotsync application on Palm. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> does rfcomm_sppd(1) work for you? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, not really. rfcomm_sppd requires that the palm be the server >>>>> of the serial port service (if I understand correctly, and I may >>>>> not!), which means I would have to hit the sync button, then >>>>> quickly start rfcomm_sppd with the correct channel number (which I >>>>> don't know), and then start my sync right after that. I have not >>>>> been able to get this trickery to work. Even so, if I did get it >>>>> working, I'm not sure this is the best solution. >>>> >>>> >>>> what palm model do you have? is it possible to simple turn on >>>> bluetooth without doing anything on palm? if so, then could you >>>> please run >>> >>> >>> Tungsten T5 >>> Bluetooth is on, but with the palm powered off, obviously nothing >>> will happen. With it on, only slightly more than nothing happens. >>> See below. >>> >>>> % sdpcontrol -a palm_bd_addr browse >>>> >>>> and/or >>>> >>>> % sdpcontrol -a palm_bd_addr search SP >>>> >>>> if you palm has serial port (SP) service then you should be able to >>>> just connect to it without hitting sync button first. >>> >>> >>> Palm off: >>> [ 15:43:10 root@neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse >>> Could not execute command "browse". Host is down >>> [ 15:43:23 root@neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP >>> Could not execute command "search". Host is down >>> >>> Palm on, doing nothing: >>> [ 15:43:40 root@neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse >>> (beep beep beep on palm, says "connecting") >>> [ 15:43:46 root@neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP >>> Could not execute command "search". Host is down >>> [ 15:44:06 root@neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse >>> [ 15:44:19 root@neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP >>> [ 15:44:22 root@neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse >>> >>> Palm on, trying to hotsync: >>> (says 'connecting' after hotsync press) >>> [ 15:46:40 root@neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse >>> [ 15:46:47 root@neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm search SP >>> [ 15:46:49 root@neutrino ~ ]# sdpcontrol -a epa-palm browse >>> [ 15:46:52 root@neutrino ~ ]# >>> >>>> it is also trivial to extend rfcomm_sppd(1) to make it work as >>>> server. you could use either nmdm(4) or pty(4) to emulate serial >>>> port. i could put it on my to do list, but i need to know how palm >>>> expects this to work (sorry never owned a palm :) >>> >>> >>> That would be pretty nifty probably. >>> >>>> [...] >>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas what I may be missing? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) check 'default' section in your /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and make sure >>>>>> it only contains commands that applied to _all_ other sections in >>>>>> your ppp.conf file. i always have 'default' section empty and move >>>>>> all the commands to the appropriate section. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've removed everything in the default section, with no changes (I >>>>> barely had anything in it). >>>> >>>> >>>> good. do you have a dropdown box on your palm that specifies remote >>>> system access type, i.e. something like PPP (unix), RAS (microsoft) >>>> or something like this? i recall that earlier versions of palm had >>>> such dropdown box. you need to use "PPP (unix)". >>>> >>>> you might want to try to add something like >>>> >>>> enable force-scripts >>>> set dial "CLIENT CLIENTSERVER" >>>> >>>> to your bluetooth section in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. this should make ppp >>>> compatible with microsoft RAS style clients :) >>> >>> >>> I'll try this out tonight. >>> >>>>>> 2) add 'set log all' to the 'bluetooth' section. then try again. >>>>>> now /var/log/ppp.log should have tons of information that will >>>>>> tell you what is going all. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Done - now I have lots more logged info I don't understand. :) >>>> >>>> >>>> could you post it somewhere? >>> >>> >>> Sure - I'll post it tonight for you. >>> >>>>>> 3) since you are _not_ using ppp authentication make sure your >>>>>> palm does not require one >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pretty sure it doesn't - no place to put in the info, and I connect >>>>> up to my cellphone over bluetooth for surfing, etc using a similar >>>>> method. >>>> >>>> >>>> do you mean you connect your palm to your cellphone? >>> >>> >>> Yea, I mean my palm connects to cellphone. Actually, I can also >>> connect using my laptop through my cellphone over bluetooth to get >>> internet also. >>> >>>>> Any more ideas? What should I be looking for in the ppp logs? I >>>>> did see this though: >>>>> >>>>> Aug 1 14:38:02 neutrino ppp[17496]: tun0: Phase: deflink: closed >>>>> -> opening >>>>> Aug 1 14:38:02 neutrino ppp[17496]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Link is >>>>> SOCK_STREAM, but not inet >>>>> Aug 1 14:38:02 neutrino ppp[17496]: tun0: Debug: deflink: stdin is >>>>> unidentified >>>> >>>> >>>> those are fine (i think). i'd like to see full log. i suspect there >>>> is something is wrong at ppp level. you also might want to run >>>> hcidump (from ports comms/hcidump) as root >>>> >>>> # hcidump -w palm.dump -- it will block >>>> >>>> then try to connect. then terminate hcidump with ^c and send me the >>>> palm.dump file. also what is the freebsd version? >>> >>> >>> -current (7.0). >>> >>> I'll try to get you more info tonight. >> >> >> ppp.log is here: >> >> http://www.googlebit.com/freebsd/ppp.log >> >> And palm.dump is there too. >> >> What else would you like? > > > err... does not work... > > Forbidden > You don't have permission to access /freebsd/ppp.log on this server. > > Apache/1.3.33 Server at googlebit.com Port 80 Woops.. Fixed! Also - can hcidump sniff a bluetooth exchange between two other hosts? What I was thinking, was I could get a dump from my palm syncing to a windows box over bluetooth. Eric -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Anderson Sr. Systems Administrator Centaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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