Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:24:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner <luvbeastie@larseighner.com> To: pete wright <nomadlogic@gmail.com> Cc: Jonathan McKeown <j.mckeown@ru.ac.za>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, utisoft@gmail.com Subject: Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package? Message-ID: <20091027202430.X92294@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <57d710000910271741p7429d4feh150ecbe6cddd3d2e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4AE5F897.3000103@rawbw.com> <200910270916.31033.j.mckeown@ru.ac.za> <20091027021723.M88213@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <b79ecaef0910270216q14421922w4acf62103322c16a@mail.gmail.com> <20091027142502.Q91143@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <b79ecaef0910271341y1aea61a6pd7bcd6c96855da64@mail.gmail.com> <20091027191626.T92033@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <57d710000910271741p7429d4feh150ecbe6cddd3d2e@mail.gmail.com>
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This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1164999809-1256693047=:92294 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, pete wright wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Lars Eighner > <luvbeastie@larseighner.com> wrote: > >>> You guessed wrong. >>> >>> We use m4, which cuts out most of the crap that you had to write into >>> sendmail.cf. You write sendmail.mc and compile it. Sendmail.mc on my >>> system is less than 50 lines long, including comments. >>> >>> http://www.sendmail.org/m4/intro.html >> >> That's as poorly documented and incomprehensible as .cf by hand. =A0What= is >> your interest in sendmail? =A0Are you connected with it in someway? =A0S= urely, >> yours could not be the opinion of someone who doesn't get a piece of >> O'Reilly's royalties. =A0It's the same old crap, give the software away,= sell >> the documentation. > well shit man - Eric's actually a super nice guy and has made some > major contributions to computing so I reckon he deserves *some* > respect for the work he's done on sendmail. Evidently by making it necessary to learn yet another scripting language to configure it. Other than personal profit I cannot see why people are clinging like grim death to something this fubar. Really, let's go past this one more time: "Sure, sendmail.cf is hard to work with so the solution is you learn m4!" Did you look at the link he offered? How helpful is that? Beside which, m4 is a PORT. So if sendmail is not configurable without a port, why isn't it a port? --=20 Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 --0-1164999809-1256693047=:92294--
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