Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 03:50:31 +0100 From: Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely7.cicely.de> To: Greg Ansley <gja@ansley.com> Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: arm/155214: [patch] MMC/SD IO slow on Atmel ARM with modern large SD cards Message-ID: <20110303025031.GD86812@cicely7.cicely.de> In-Reply-To: <4D6EE744.5050100@ansley.com> References: <201103030040.p230eBIt023558@freefall.freebsd.org> <4D6EE744.5050100@ansley.com>
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On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 07:56:36PM -0500, Greg Ansley wrote: > On 3/2/11 7:40 PM, Ian Lepore wrote: > >The following reply was made to PR arm/155214; it has been noted by GNATS. > > > >From: Ian Lepore<freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org> > >To: ticso@cicely.de > >Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org > >Subject: Re: arm/155214: [patch] MMC/SD IO slow on Atmel ARM with modern > > large SD cards > >Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 17:21:09 -0700 > > > > On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 00:52 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 02:53:18PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: > > > > > > > > >Number: 155214 > > > > >Category: arm > > > > >Synopsis: [patch] MMC/SD IO slow on Atmel ARM with modern > > large SD cards > > > > >Confidential: no > > > > >Severity: serious > > > > >Priority: medium > > > > >Responsible: freebsd-arm > > > > >State: open > > > > >Quarter: > > > > >Keywords: > > > > >Date-Required: > > > > >Class: sw-bug > > > > >Submitter-Id: current-users > > > > >Arrival-Date: Wed Mar 02 22:10:10 UTC 2011 > > > > >Closed-Date: > > > > >Last-Modified: > > > > >Originator: Ian Lepore<freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org> > > > > >Release: FreeBSD 8.2-RC3 arm > > > > >Organization: > > > > none > > > > >Environment: > > > > FreeBSD dvb 8.2-RC3 FreeBSD 8.2-RC3 #49: Tue Feb 15 22:52:14 UTC > > 2011 root@revolution.hippie.lan:/usr/obj/arm/usr/src/sys/DVB arm > > > > > > > > Included patch is against -current even though the problem was > > first seen on > > > > 8.2-RC3 > > > > > > > > The problem was seen on AT91RM9200 hardware, but presumably also > > affects the > > > > SAM9 series which uses the same driver code. > > > > > > > > >Description: > > > > With the latest generation of large-capacity SD cards, write > > speeds as low as > > > > 20 kbytes/sec are seen. These modern cards have erase-block sizes > > as large as > > > > 8192K (compared to 32K typical on previous generations). The > > at91_mci driver > > > > does only single-sector IO; apparently this requires the SD card > > to internally > > > > perform an expensive read-erase-modify-write cycle for each 512 > > byte block > > > > written to the card. > > > > > > The complete details of this problem are completely known. > > > However the RM9200 has many hardware problems to be worked around and > > > so far noone actually did. > > > Your patch is quite large, so I would like to ask you explicitly: > > > Did you test your patch with an AT91RM9200 system? > > > You did enable multisector support for reading and (more important) > > for > > > writing? > > > But you didn't activate 4bit mode? > > > With 4bit mode there is no hardware bug, but when the driver was > > written > > > is was just done in a lazy way because activating 4bit on SD cards > > require > > > special handling - in the meantime the SD layer itself was extracted > > and > > > has 4bit support, but the at91_mci driver was never updated to use > > that. > > > > > > PS: I'm very pleased to see your work since SD write speed was a > > > major show stopper for some applications > > > > > > > Yes, the patch is large, partly because I included comments about the > > hardware problems I found and how the code works around them (and also > > to help the next person understand the flow). > > > > My changes support multi-sector IO for both reads and writes. > > > > The company I work for uses the AT91RM9200 on custom-designed boards in > > 8 products, all with substantially similar board designs. So far we've > > tested these changes on 4 of them, with no problems found. > > > > I have not tested with 4-bit enabled; I wasn't aware (but in retrospect > > I probably should have assumed) that the hardware bugs are different > > with 4-bit enabled. I'm not even sure our hardware design carries all 4 > > lines to the card; I'll look at the schematics and if they're connected > > I'll see about testing that mode. (And if they're not I'll see about > > having our designers wire up all 4 lines on future designs.) > > > > I also haven't tested with the SAM9-series, because I don't have that > > hardware available. (I hope to convince our hardware designers to > > migrate us to SAM9 this year.) > > > With the current code (prepatch) 4bit mode is known to work at least on > the SAM9G20 with kernel option AT91_MCI_HAS_4WIRE. I'll be working on > the SAM9G20 in the next few days and I can test the patch on both a > RM9200 (1 bit only) and on a couple of SAM9G20 designs with 4bit hardware. Oh - we already have such a feature - cool. -- B.Walter <bernd@bwct.de> http://www.bwct.de Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm.
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