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Date:      Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:32:07 -0700
From:      Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors
Message-ID:  <20081215203207.GG60187@kokopelli.hydra>
In-Reply-To: <20081215125453.U53356@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 01:06:58PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >   base system: nothing appropriate
> >
> >Maybe what we need isn't for you to keep complaining about 70% of the
> >very helpful list traffic,
>=20
> helpful for whom?
>=20
> >thus producing another 5% of the list traffic
> >yourself (directly, and indirectly through annoyed responses to you), but
> >for someone to come up with a base-system@freebsd.org list where you can
> >hang out and be happy.
> >
> seems you actively like this mailing list to become big shit.
> You WELL know what i am talking about, and you just play with words.

Ah -- so now you accuse me of maliciousness.  How much worse can your
"contributions" to this list get?


>=20
> Because i AM very much feared about FreeBSD future not being like lots of=
=20
> other free software project, i will do everything to take all idiots,=20
> winusers, "students" that want comparision between different OS in few=20
> words (because they was required at school), questions about one of=20
> million of non-freebsd specific software, stupid discussion about=20
> windoze-like bloatware running under unix etc. etc.
>=20
> I really don't care about your opinion, just because it's THE ONLY GOOD=
=20
> UNIX LEFT IN THE WORLD now!
>=20
> There was linux many years ago, yes - less functional, but WELL DONE, the=
y=20
> f...ked it up by quickly adding every stupid features requested.

I still haven't figured out why you think that answering questions about
DNS on FreeBSD or looking for ways to improve driver support would equate
to "adding every stupid features [sic] requested."


>=20
> Then i switched to NetBSD, that worked excellent up to 1.5,=20
> and then got f..ked up even more than linux when started to be sponsored=
=20
> by "wasabisystems" and possibly other funny companies. They even changed=
=20
> the way versions are numbered to get higher numbers faster ;)

Did it really get screwed up, or did you just decide it *must* be getting
screwed up because development was sponsored?


>=20
> Now i'm using FreeBSD and it got better each version.
> Really better, not "better".

A lot of people would disagree with you about the 5.x releases, judging
by what I've read.  By all accounts, though, it got back on track.

I wonder if NetBSD got better again after you left, if it ever got worse
in the first place.


>=20
> And i really want to keep it that way, because there is no alternative=20
> now!

--=20
Chad Perrin [ content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
Quoth William Gibson: "The future is already here.  It's just not very
evenly distributed."

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