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Date:      Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:57:11 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
To:        steve@Watt.COM (Steve Watt)
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why sshd:PermitRootLogin = no ?
Message-ID:  <200110060057.f960vBs86348@earth.backplane.com>
References:  <5.1.0.14.0.20011005120304.009f8590@127.0.0.1> <200110052040.f95KeTw84982@earth.backplane.com> <20011005165350.A22343@techsquare.com> <200110052058.f95KwSR85154@earth.backplane.com> <20011005170619.A42459@techsquare.com> <200110052314.f95NEAt79407@wattres.Watt.COM>

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:dillon@earth.backplane.com wrote:
:>    I'm afraid I don't understand your point.  If without-password
:>    makes sshd useful to a larger subsection of users without effecting
:>    security on the original subsection, why wouldn't you want to make
:>    the change?  Just because it may not make a difference for YOU doesn't
:>    mean that it wouldn't be a useful change to make.
:
:But it *can't* make it useful to any more users.  How do you get the
:authorized-hosts file updated?  You edit it.  How do you get the
:configuration changed to without-password from none?  You edit it.
:
:Same work, no obvious advantage to without-password over no, and better
:obvservance of "install in the most secure way possible".  Just like
:the discard port is disabled in inetd.conf -- same concept.
:
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:Steve Watt KD6GGD  PP-ASEL-IA          ICBM: 121W 56' 57.8" / 37N 20' 14.9"

    I see.  And at what point does editing N files make it 'easier'?  4? 5?
    If we were to cut the number of files you had to edit to get X to work
    from 5 to 3 would that be worthwhile enough to do a commit?  What 
    exactly are you arguing here?  Because I don't see it.

    Frankly I think being able to go from 2 files to 1 to get something done,
    like creating an authorized_keys file for root, is well worth the commit
    if there are otherwise no downsides.  I don't see any downsides to doing
    this except for a few people who seem to be arguing that status-quo is
    better then fixing something even if fixing that something has absolutely
    no effect on them.

						-Matt


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