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Date:      Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:24:32 -0800
From:      Astrodog <astrodog@gmail.com>
To:        Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org>
Cc:        Julian Stacey <jhs@berklix.org>
Subject:   Re: Can FreeBSD Grow Large?
Message-ID:  <2fd864e050217072412ef0b18@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <4212F72B.2020201@nbritton.org>
References:  <200502152327.j1FNRBQL041297@fire.jhs.private> <4212F72B.2020201@nbritton.org>

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 01:32:59 -0600, Nikolas Britton
<freebsd@nbritton.org> wrote:
> Julian Stacey wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >Presumably that includes some who hold commit privs mainly for the
> >freebsd.org web site.
> >
> >It's tedious though, how much irrelevant hot air has been dumped
> >onto advocacy@ Re. logo preferences, considering we won't get to vote !
> >  - Apparently commiters will vote;  Presumably advocacy@ will not.
> >  - Commiters are on the commit list, & current@,
> >    I guess just a low percentage of advocacy@ are committers.
> >  - Most commiters will probably ignore advocacy@ when they vote.
> >Deduction: people with logo preferences should contact commiters
> >who will vote, not this advocacy@ list that likely includes few voters.
> >
> >Readers of advocacy@ have limited choices:
> >  - Face reality, realise logo preference on advocacy@ is hot air, Or ...
> >  - Do a load of send-pr's & be individually invited to be a commiter to
> >    src/ ports/ doc/ or www/ who can vote, Or ...
> >  - Agitate for votes for advocacy@ members (little chance I guess), Or ...
> >  - Wait for commiters (who will ignore advocacy@) to choose Their logo,
> >    then advocacy@ individuals can ignore or include logo on non
> >    freebsd.org controlled BSD advocacy sites & events that advocacy@
> >    readers organise.
> >
> >Best skip the irrelevant logo debates where our views are Not wanted.
> >Best be more constructive, & discuss what we Can do: eg collecting
> >content for web sites to promote business adopting BSD etc.  Harvesting
> >facts such as (paraphrasing) ...
> >
> >
> Now that you got me thinking about it... There is no reason why a group
> of us (I'll help) couldn't fork the entire FreeBSD website, doc, etc.
> projects and redo or create everything thats needed for a better
> Image/PR etc. Then just point the download links to the freebsd servers.
> This way we can just side step all the bullshit and resistance where
> getting. We could then merge the projects when they finally see the
> light. If we really wanted to we could just rebrand the entire FreeBSD
> project, having are own core/committers of web designers,
> writes/editors, marketing and business people :-).

I suspect that would not play really well with most FreeBSD users.

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