Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:33:22 -0400 From: Bill Moran <wmoran@columbus.rr.com> Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP! MFC's Message-ID: <39F9BC62.4B702347@columbus.rr.com> References: <20001027184107.T5433@lucifer.bart.nl> <20001027094613.E28123@fw.wintelcom.net> <20001027185310.V5433@lucifer.bart.nl> <20001027100225.F28123@fw.wintelcom.net>
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Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > * Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <jruigrok@via-net-works.nl> [001027 09:53] wrote: > > While I strive to make sure everything I MFC is tested it can always > > happen that something for some reason blows up. > > > > Some things are just beyond your control. > > That's understandable, and if things are proceeding as normal then > there's no reason for potentially creating panic for the users. Come on here. This is the kind of talk I don't want to hear. There is no "panic" here. Anyone who knows anything about this system already knows that -STABLE is never a guarantee of stability. It's a best attempt at it. (and a damn good one, I might add!) Personally, I have a test system that I cvsup and test before doing a cvsup on a mission-critical production system. (I then use the date tag in cvsup to get the exact version tested onto the production machine) Anyone who is not doing something similar is begging for trouble. Occasionally the -STABLE tree breaks. And as far as not communicating anything for fear of "potentially" doing anything. Ignore him, Jeroen! If I want communications smoothed over for marketing purposes, I'll go back to commercial software. I want honest information on what's going on in the tree, and that's what Jeroen is giving us. One of the great things I like about Open Source is the candidness. Bugs are freely communicated so I don't have to spend hours on the phone with a tech support person who has been told not to admit that there could be bugs that aren't officially published by big brother. I thought Jeroen's message was a well-worded reminder to be careful with cvsupping -STABLE on production machines. Anyone who is concerned by this message needs to reconsider their upgrading practices. -Bill (I'm not mad, I'm just loud - hope this doesn't sound like a rant) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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