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Date:      Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:52:02 -0600
From:      Jim King <jim.king@mail.sstar.com>
To:        David Wolfskill <dhw@whistle.com>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, gaylord@gaylord.async.vt.edu
Subject:   Re: has this been fixed?
Message-ID:  <199811041852.MAA04000@oasis.zycor.lgc.com>
In-Reply-To: <199811041759.JAA18450@pau-amma.whistle.com>
References:  <199811040329.WAA02779@gaylord.async.vt.edu>

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At 09:59 AM 11/4/98 -0800, David Wolfskill wrote:
>>From: Clark Gaylord <gaylord@gaylord.async.vt.edu>
>>Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:29:28 -0500 (EST)
>
>>> Just out of curiousity, how did the threshold for "a bit too long" get 
>>> determined?  Is this defined in the IDE standard?  Did someone conduct
>
>>IDE standard?  You are funny.  Let me guess, that's published on
>>www.snakeoil.com, right?
>
>Ummm....  I didn't ask the original question, but it's not at all clear
>to me why it should be "funny."
>
>Given that someone evidently thinks it is, I gether from context that
>the phrase "IDE standard" is a reference to a nonentity?  Is there an
>expectation that anyone who might ever want to use a FreeBSD system
>should know this?

There are published documents that are referred to as IDE standards.  My
experience over the years has been that different drive manufacturers
interpret them differently, and newer standards tend to skimp on backwards
compatibility with older standards.  I always cross my fingers when mixing
drives from different manufacturers, or drives that were manufactured more
than a year apart.

Just last night, the simple act of tossing in a 2-year-old EIDE drive into
a system with a 6-month-old UDMA drive resulted in a *completely*
non-functional system, until I pulled out the EIDE drive AND reset the BIOS
configuration.  I absolutely *hate* IDE.

Jim



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