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Date:      Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:51:55 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Brian Feldman <green@zone.syracuse.NET>
Cc:        Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com>, Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>, "Alex G. Bulushev" <bag@sinbin.demos.su>, Daniel Rock <rock@cs.uni-sb.de>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: -current NFS problem
Message-ID:  <19981015115155.O586@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810142214160.20984-100000@zone.syracuse.NET>; from Brian Feldman on Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 10:16:21PM -0400
References:  <19981015105245.H586@freebie.lemis.com> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810142214160.20984-100000@zone.syracuse.NET>

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On Wednesday, 14 October 1998 at 22:16:21 -0400, Brian Feldman wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Greg Lehey wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, 14 October 1998 at 10:28:14 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Mike Smith wrote:
>>>>> Perhaps this could be the problem with NFS "hanging" certain people all
>>>>> the time? (not the pine thing) The system spending way too much time
>>>>> inside the kernel transmitting NFS packets....
>>>>
>>>> No.  Lack of ACCESS caching makes us slow and eats the network (because
>>>> we are very good at generating/sending/receiving them).
>>>>
>>>> If there's someone out there that wants to work with the very best NFS
>>>> people in the business to sort out our problems, please let me know.
>>>> NetApp are keen to see our issues resolved (it will mean less angst
>>>> for them in the long run, as they have many FreeBSD-using customers).
>>>>
>>>> Right now, we are accumulating a bad NFS reputation. 8(
>>>
>>> I thought kirk was doing that....
>>
>> I hope not.
>
> Well, according to Jordan's "non-verification" to my alluding that since
> Dr. McKusick was committing NFS deltas, he was the mysterious contracted
> NFS fixer-upper.

Yes, I think you're probably right, though I don't know why nobody has
confirmed or denied it.  My comment related to Julian's undirected
comment, and wasn't intended seriously.

> Last time I checked, he didn't really do his entire job if that was
> to totally fix NFS.... but hey, I don't use NFS much if ever, so I
> won't Complain...

I use NFS.  I'd really like to see it fixed.

Greg
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