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Date:      Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:55:29 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>
Cc:        Crist Clark <crist.clark@globalstar.com>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FW: Small TCP packets == very large overhead == DoS?
Message-ID:  <20010716175529.A51681@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <200107100938.TAA13064@caligula.anu.edu.au>; from avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au on Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 07:38:59PM %2B1000
References:  <3B4A53D7.287F47AF@globalstar.com> <200107100938.TAA13064@caligula.anu.edu.au>

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On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 07:38:59PM +1000, Darren Reed wrote:
> In some mail from Crist Clark, sie said:
> > 
> > The TCP segment is everything in the IP payload. An SYN segment is a 
> > TCP segment, but it carries no data and has a segment length of one (whee!). 
> > I can see that clearly in the RFC, and I think we all cab agree on that. 
> > However, I think that a SYN segment, which is all header, has a size greater
> > than one. It looks more like 24-or-so bytes typically... or maybe it does not.
> > I am looking for where (if anywhere) the specification comes out and says 
> > that segment "size" is the same as "length." Why isn't the MSS called the MSL 
> > after the RFC has gone to such pains to define "length?"
> 
> Why can't a SYN segment be a TCP segment of length 0 ?
> (with one phantom byte)
> 
Because it is acknowledged by the other side.


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