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Date:      Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:04:13 +0200
From:      Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de>
To:        FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Not to beat a dead horse, but ...
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Am 09.06.2014 um 01:52 schrieb George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p.com>:

> On 06/08/14 19:22, John-Mark Gurney wrote:
>> [...]  it turns out that the electricity
>> savings in a year, paid for the entire cost of the new switch...  We
>> were talking ~$250/year in savings, so, upgrading can end up saving
>> you money...
>>=20
> Thanks for the advice on what hardware I should run.  But why should I
> believe that upgrading to SMP and running with ULE will make my life
> better?  In fact, when I tried ULE + a six-core system + dnetc + make
> buildworld, etc., a couple of years ago (I do have one SMP system),
> the results were just as appalling compared to 4BSD as with a single
> processor.                                                =97 George


I think a lot of progress has been made as compared to =84a couple of =
years ago=93.
I have no hard numbers to back that up, of course, because I don=92t =
have a uniform work-load that I can throw different releases (and =
kernels) at.
In addition to that, older FreeBSD releases generally run on (much) =
older hardware and thus I can=92t compare the performance directly.

But I would hesitate to, in essence, call the results of the efforts of =
the developers over the last years =84appalling=93.


That said, you can still buy single-core systems and I actually run one: =
an ALIX 2d13. And I think my Centrino-laptop is also single-core (but =
it=92s from 2004=85).
But the Alix runs pfSense, not FreeBSD. As such, the pfSense-project is =
responsible for issuing patches (and does so).

People running non-standard kernel for other reasons (VIMAGE comes to =
mind) probably have a similar problem.

AFAIK, you should be able to run a local freebsd-update server and build =
the patches yourself.
I just don=92t know if it will actually fix your problem out of the box =
or what else would have to be done so that freebsd-update replaces the =
kernel with the one from your custom freebsd-update server...






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