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Date:      Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:55:38 -0700
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com>
Cc:        arch@freebsd.org, Sergey Vinogradov <boogie@lazybytes.org>, current@freebsd.org, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Subject:   Re: BIND in the base (Was: Re: tmux(1) in base)
Message-ID:  <4AB91DAA.5010000@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <19e9a5dc0909221053r4ada92bege718e37aa575e0de@mail.gmail.com>
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Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:

> With all due respect, I already know that .. it's pretty clear in the
> different manuals, hanbooks and how-ro's ... and that's exactly why I
> never asked how can I remove sendmail and replace it with dma .. the
> question was more inclined in the way: why such a heavywheight (which
> is what a lot of users seem to be saying, and I agree with them) when
> we could do just as well with dma

So do it already. :)  A lot of people have talked about this, but no
one has put code where their mouth is. Create a POC and post it to
-arch, then we have something concrete to discuss. And please, don't
bother with the "But I don't want to do the work if it isn't going to
be accepted into the base" argument. There are way more than enough
people whinging about this topic that your work will have an
appreciative audience, which is all the reward we get around here.

> (let alone the fact that we could
> then cooperate with DragonFly, creating synergy, advancing toghether
> towards the same goal amongst a plenty of other advantages).

While those are nice words I don't think they have any meaning in the
real world. We're dealing with a technical issue, we need to keep the
discussion on technical terms.

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