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Date:      Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:00:27 -0600
From:      "Timms, Simon" <STimms@petro-canada.ca>
To:        "'bsd@sleve.mailshell.com'" <bsd@sleve.mailshell.com>, questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   RE: Xfree86 Config Problems
Message-ID:  <BB28669D4974D311B4A00008C75D1CF90F54C0B8@pcaxs02.pcacorp.net>

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sounds like you are doing pretty good.  If you are getting the gray =
screen
and black X then your video card is supported and you have started X.  =
What
you are missing is a window manager.  I don't know what window manager =
you
want but give fluxbox a try, it is in the ports collection.  If you =
want
something a little heavier try KDE or GNOME.  I am aware that KDE/Gnome
aren't window managers, thank you.  Once you have installed a window =
manager
they edit your .xinitrc and add a call to your window manager (exec =
startkde
for kde, exec fluxbox for fluxbox).  Check the archive of this list =
somebody
has done a good walk though for this before.  If you do install kde =
from
ports then allow a good few hours for it to finish.

try:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html =
the
friendly handbook for some good examples. =20

good luck!



-----Original Message-----
From: bsd@sleve.mailshell.com [mailto:bsd@sleve.mailshell.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:22 AM
To: questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: Xfree86 Config Problems


Thanks for prompt reply, guys.  I enjoy this community, but hate the
install. =20

While I didn't mention it in my email, I did try this as well:
> > # XFree86 -configure
And it didn't work.  Gave me X cursor in gray screen and could not get =
out.

As for checking for multiple config files, how would I know?  Where =
would I
find them? What would I do with them all, just rm them?  What if I =
found
more than one?  How do I know which one is being used?  Why so many =
config
utils?  Why are there so many possible locations?=20

This is my first install of BSD, and while I've installed Linux a dozen
times, I don't know where to find things in BSD.  I'm overwhelmed and
frustrated.  Please walk me through the steps before I give up on BSD.  =


I wonder if my S3 Savage 2000 video card is supported, even though it =
was on
the list.  I saw many posts about S3 problems, none with obvious =
solutions.
I could use the FreeBSD 5.1 Release if that would help.  I saw this =
link
about S3 Savage at http://www.xfree86.org/support.html a private =
developer
at  http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html where he says:  "xvideo on =
the
Savage2000 still seems to be broken. I don't know when I'll be able to =
get
around to this."=20

Thus far, the install process is overly complicated and not inviting to =
new
users.  I could provide specific feedback on this if anyone wants it.


>From Viktor Lazlo <viktorlazlo@telus.net> on 23 Jun 2003:

>=20
>=20
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 bsd@sleve.mailshell.com wrote:
>=20
http://cgisleve.tripod.com/bsd/xfreebad.html is a web page of this =
info.
> >
> > XFree86 Configuration Problems
> >     by Steve LeBlanc =A9 2003.6.22
> > Installed FreeBSD for first time.  Text login was fine. NIC worked.
> Did a telnet and ftp to computers on the Internet. All seemed to work
> except for configuring XFree86. No screen found when I did startx. =
Below
> are the details:
> >
> > The full commented files: XF86Config.txt and XFreelog.txt
> >
> > Settings
> > XFree86 Ver:4.2.1=20
> > Release Date: 3 September 2002
> > OS: FreeBSD 5.0 RELEASE
> > Video: S3 Savage2000 (generic) 64MB, 3D
> > Monitor: Cornea MT1700 17" LCD H: 31.5-80, V: 56-75
> >
> >
> > After install I tried both: xf86cfg -textmode and xf86config to
> > reconfigure. I read the docs deeply and redid this 15 times, using =
the
> > various command line tools. Each of the last 10 times, I typed in =
my
> > settings and selected my Graphics card from the list. I just can't =
get
> > startx to work. Below are my XF86Config file and my XFree log file,
> with comments removed.
> >
> > Fatal server error:
> > no screens found
>=20
> Check the handbook:
>=20
> 5.4.2 Configuring XFree86 4.X
>=20
>    Configuration of XFree86 4.X is a multi-step process. The first =
step
>=20
> is to build an initial configuration file with the -configure option =
to
> XFree86.   As the super user, simply run:
>=20
>      # XFree86 -configure
>=20
> Cheers,
>=20
> Viktor


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