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Date:      Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:41:55 -0600
From:      Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>
To:        Drew Tomlinson <drew@mykitchentable.net>
Cc:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Port 1214 - Is It Used For A Specific Purpose?
Message-ID:  <3C027EE3.42197913@centtech.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.1011127012840.19727B-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au> <005a01c176a1$2fe31cf0$962a6ba5@lc.ca.gov>

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The only time I have seen mass 1214 ports probes is when
running mp3 p2p clients, like morpheous or kazaa.

Eric

(Sorry if someone mentioned this already, I missed a chunk
of mail)

Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Smith" <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
> To: "Drew Tomlinson" <drew@mykitchentable.net>
> Cc: <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 6:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Port 1214 - Is It Used For A Specific Purpose?
> 
> > On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> >
> >  > I was looking over my firewall logs this morning and noticed that
> there
> >  > are many attempts to connect to TCP port 1214 from different
> addresses.
> >
> > Good replies re the specific gadget, but you'll be seeing similar
> scans
> > for any number of mystery ports to every accessible address in your
> net.
> >
> > [..]
> >
> >  > P.S.  192.168.10.2 is my outside interface to my firewall.  I know
> it is
> >  > a private address but it's OK as my ADSL modem/router gets a public
> >  > address from my ISP via DHCP and performs NAT for the rest of my
> >  > machines.
> >  >
> >  > > ipfw: 65500 Deny TCP 141.157.125.23:1042 192.168.10.2:1214 in via
> ed1
> >  [..]
> >  > > ipfw: 65500 Deny TCP 172.191.120.23:2453 192.168.10.2:1214 in via
> ed1
> >
> > I don't understand why a firewall, upstream on ed1 as you describe it,
> > would be passing TCP setup for this port on to you in the first place,
> > unless it's a service that's been specifically allowed?
> >
> > Perhaps I misunderstand the topology - is this your local ipfw
> logging?
> 
> My network setup is like this:
> 
>        ISP
>         |
>         | IP is DHCP (RFC 1918 & draft-manning nets
>         |             inbound blocked here)
>         |
>  ADSL Modem/Router (provides DNS & NAT)
>         |192.168.10.1 RFC 1918 & draft-manning nets
>         |             outbound blocked here)
>         |
>         |192.168.10.2 (ed1)
>         |
>      Firewall (FBSD/IPFW Box)
>         |
>         |192.168.1.2 (ed0)
>         |
> Internal Network 192.168.1.0/24
> 
> The ADSL modem/router (3Com OCR 812) is set to forward all packets to
> the FBSD box.  The modem/router has limited filtering capabilities
> unless I can figure out how to write what the manual terms as "generic
> packet filters" where one actually calculates the offset and examines
> then next "n" bytes (bits?).  But irregardless of the type of filter,
> there is no logging as far as I can tell.  I setup the FBSD box as a
> firewall for finer control and so that I could see what's happening via
> log files.  In other words, the modem/router is mostly a modem.  Because
> I have been unsuccesful in setting it up as a bridge (which is what I
> think I really want), I left NAT running on the router as there's no
> reason to NAT twice.
> 
> Ultimately, I would like the modem/router to be a modem only and pass
> *everything* (isn't this what a bridge does?) to ed1 on my FBSD box so I
> may filter it there.  When I originally signed up for DSL, the modem my
> telco offered would only work with Windows as there was no "dial-up"
> software for PPPoA.  Thus I went for the router as it does the "dial-up"
> internally.
> 
> I've fiddled with my setup several times and this is the best I could
> come up with.  However I'm always open to suggestions.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Drew
> 
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