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Date:      Tue, 4 Jun 2002 10:20:14 +0300
From:      Roman Jasin <cityangels@mac.com>
To:        <barbish@a1poweruser.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: connection drops after some time
Message-ID:  <83E51D2E-778B-11D6-8349-00039345B18A@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <MIEPLLIBMLEEABPDBIEGCENKCBAA.barbish@a1poweruser.com>

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Joe,

Thanks for the thought, but I have RadioDSL connection. I don't use a 
modem. I'm plugged in via Ethernet card.

Thanks tho,

-Roma

On Tuesday, June 4, 2002, at 12:30 AM, Joe & Fhe Barbish wrote:

> Roman
> I think you are headed in the wrong direction.
> You did not state how you are connecting to your ISP.
> If you are using user ppp then you are being cut off by the default time
> limit in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.
> Change the   set timeout   option to the following.
> set timeout 0		# no idle time out, will not disconnect
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Bill Moran
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 4:36 PM
> To: Roman Jasin
> Cc: Chris Fedde; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: connection drops after some time
>
> Roman Jasin wrote:
>> Thanks Chris,
>>
>> I guess that's what I'll have to do. You wouldn't believe how
>> incompetent some ISPs can be here (Latvia). I probably spend hours on
>> the phone trying to get them to check whether they have a timeout 
>> setup.
>
> I feel your pain.  I've worked for some people like this, and 
> occasionally,
> I've just fixed the problem when the boss' back was turned, despite the
> fact that he had specifically told me not to. :(
> Hopefully, the suggestion I give below will help you fix things.
> As far as the ISPs in Latvia being incompetent, I'm sorry, but there are
> some in the US who are just as bad (if not worse).
>
>> On Monday, June 3, 2002, at 09:34 PM, Chris Fedde wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 20:06:39 +0300  Roman Jasin wrote:
>>>  +------------------
>>>  | I guess the problem is my ISP, but I'm not sure about that. Plus 
>>> those
>>>  | guys aren't very helpful, so I'm hoping to fix it w/o them. It
>>> proved to
>>>  | be the fastest path in the past.
>>>  |
>>>  | Here is what happening with my FreeBSD 4.5-STABLE box, running 
>>> Apache,
>>>  | sshd, and sendmail. It becomes inaccessible from outside world 
>>> after
>>>  | less than an hour if I'm not doing something on it. As soon as I
>>> access
>>>  | something from it, whether via http or simple  ping, it comes back
>>>  | online and you can see it from the outside. It looks like it 
>>> forgets
>>>  | ISP's default router address. APM is not an issue simply because 
>>> it's
>>>  | disabled. I tried everything, even replacing the NIC and the box
>>> itself.
>>>  | I'm on RadioDSL with BreezeAccess antenna, and like I said I don't
>>> have
>>>  | problems with the accessing Internet. The problem is that the 
>>> outside
>>>  | world can't 'see' my server if I don't access the Internet from it
>>> for a
>>>  | while.
>>>  | Hope it makes sense.
>>>  |
>>>  | Any help is very appreciated,
>>>  +------------------
>
> I worked for an ISP for a while that had the same problem with his 
> servers.
> It turned out that the recycled old switching hub that he was using had 
> an
> option to protect the network from broadcast storms and other broadcast
> traffic attacks.  Unfortunately, the method it used was to calculate the
> percentage of traffic that was broadcast, and when that percentage got 
> too
> high, temporarily disconnect the machines receiving the broadcasts from 
> the
> network.  This resulted in the machines being disconnected during slow 
> times
> when the only network traffic was Windows NetBIOS broadcasts.  Luckily, 
> the
> hub had an option to turn this "feature" off.
> You didn't specify your network and other hadware setup.  This may be
> something
> on your end, or it may be the ISPs hardware.  If the latter, you may 
> have
> trouble getting it handled if the ISP is as tough to work with as you 
> claim.
>
>>> An obvious work around is to put something that tickles the net into
>>> crontab:
>>>
>>>     */20 * * * * ping -c 3 www.myisp.com > /dev/null 2>&1
>>>
>>> But that does not address the "real" problem.  I suspect that it is a
>>> policy issue on the ISP or layer2 provider that is timing out your DSL
>>> virtual circuit.
>
> We used this solution for some time.  It seemed like an unholy hack of a
> half-a$$ed solution, but it worked.
>
> --
> Bill Moran
> Potential Technology
> http://www.potentialtech.com
>
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