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Date:      Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:07:05 +0200
From:      Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
To:        Robert Watson <robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org>
Cc:        ark@eltex.ru, cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca, oortiz@LCSI.COM, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Intruder Lockout 
Message-ID:  <199811132107.XAA12704@greenpeace.grondar.za>
In-Reply-To: Your message of " Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:58:07 EST." <Pine.BSF.3.96.981113155557.16788A-100000@fledge.watson.org> 
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.981113155557.16788A-100000@fledge.watson.org> 

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Robert Watson wrote:
> My understanding has always been that PAM is only good for talking to
> humans, and cannot be used to make things like kerberized ftp or
> kerberized imap any easier to write.  That is, that it essentially
> performs a set of challenges/responses intended for humans and is not
> easily adaptable for server-server communication or unattended
> communication in secure protocols.  Is this interpretation correct?  (Not
> having it under BSD, I haven't had much opportunity to use it).  

That depends on the implementor.

If the implementor is a twit, then sure, that is the case. If the
implementor does it properly, and for PAM, this needs to be done
properly _once_, then there should be no hassle.

PAM is generalised, so the implementor needs to think about
security in the general case; that makes life easier. If the
implementor is an idiot, (s)he can screw it up royally, but
a programmer worth his/her salt should manage without too
much of a problem.

M
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